Rumor Here are the new Villains of Star Wars: Episode VII (Spoiler)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by nld3, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    This thread is stupid. Why aren't we discussing more meaningful topics such as the sex life of the Inquisitor or what their favorite book is?
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  2. Lord D'arg Jedi Grand Master

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    Hmm, them being called 'Jedi Hunters' coupled with the non-red blade could indicate no real affiliation with the Sith. If you ask me, they're pretty cool looking but I don't think the villain(s) would be a big enough threat if it were just a group of dark-side adept, Jedi hunters. There needs to be a higher power orchestrating them as them alone can't be more powerful than Vader/Palpatine but they can't be weak enough for Luke to just be able to swat them aside as they'd serve no real purpose as being Jedi hunters.

    Maybe they were put into an induced sleep after the Jedi purge as they were no longer immediately needed which would answer the question as to why they weren't present in the OT and now somebody has awoken them and hopes to find Luke Skywalker and make him pay for what he did to Vader hence the rumours of someone being 'in love' with him.

    There could actually be something in this which has caused Luke's 30 year disappearance whilst he tracks down these Jedi hunters hopping to keep Han and Leia's children safe from them. In the midst of it all, Luke becomes dangerously close to falling to the dark side as he fears losing his sister and potential nephew and niece. Luke then finds out that DR, JB, Han and Leia have been caught and are held captive by the higher power whereby he frees them by giving into his fears and uses the dark-side in some form or another. Whether that is by killing off the main baddie or killing his minions I do not know as it would be pretty weak for there to be a new baddie in the next episode, no?

    Tl;dr I hope the new villains aren't a band of Jedi hunters trying to get revenge on Luke. I hope somebody is controlling them.
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  3. nld3 Jedi Grand Master

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    Could Imperial Advisors be a link to the Inquisitor's & the Empires revival?

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  4. jedijax Force Ghost

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    Bunch of damn illiterate eunuchs!!! No wonder they're so grouchy!
  5. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Maybe the reason why they kidnapped Luke was because they needed his EDIT: OH DEAR GOD I'VE BECOME SO BLIND FROM WHAT YOU JUST SUGGESTED THAT I CAN'T BAN YOU FROM 7SA NOW
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  6. the_sinister_hologram Jedi Grand Master

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    Actually you may be right. Those guys were never named on-screen, nor given any lines or reason for their existence.The only thing ROTJ showed was the Emperor talking to them.
    Those guys certainly look like some kind of Dark Side adepts, taking orders directly from the Emperor.
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  7. vypernight Jedi Grand Master

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    There's also the idea that Luke allowed himself to be captured. Imagine this scene. John, Daisy, Oscar, Han, and Chewie arrive on the planet to find Luke captured by Driver, who leads the inquisitors and apprentices. At one point, Driver orders the students to attack, but instead they turn and attack the inquisitors instead. It's then revealed that Luke allowed himself to be captured, and he's been influencing and "training" the students from within. This would end the movie with Luke having some new Jeid students.
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  8. darklordoftech Chosen One

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    I've always been curious about them. I'd love for them to be linked to the Inquisitors and have a role in the post-ROTJ Empire.
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  9. Game3525 Force Ghost

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    30 years is a generation. Hell, look how much the galaxy changed from episode III to episode IV and that was only 19 years.
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  10. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    Rule of Two is Dead.
  11. JediKnightWax Force Ghost

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    I think the advisers were a bunch of Grima Wormtongues.
  12. markdeez Force Ghost

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    Where are these original ST drafts you speak of??
  13. Darth_Corvus Force Ghost

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    Good question. Everyone is referring to these so-called first drafts but I have yet to see them PM-ed in my inbox.
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  14. Darth PJ Chosen One

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    We are talking about the ones who are supposed to be 'worshipping' Vader, and not Palpatine, in Ep VII aren't we?

    Sadly, I suspect that JJ is much more interested in incorporating Vader at any price, rather than it 'organically' becoming a requirement driven by the story. Not that I am adverse to the use of the iconography, I've always been in favour of that, I just would have liked for it to have been much more subtle than a 'half man half machine' Sith (or Sith substitute) basically donning his armour.

    I've already explained... because, if rumours are true, it now transpires that there were 'force users' throughout the Empire in, we are led to believe, prominent positions. So why should it be regarded as an 'ancient religion' (as in outdated) when there's clearly numerous high ranking imperials who use the force and swing lightsabres to great effect?

    But to be fair Satipo, you've been critical of some of the logic and reasoning applied to the previous films... so I'm not sure what the difference is? It's not like anything automatically gets a free pass because the director provided a rationale.
  15. JediKnightWax Force Ghost

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    Everyone remembers Supershadow, right?

    According to the "exclusive" Ep VII Plot summary....

    The enemy?

    Dark Jedi Shapeshifters

    Their goal?

    Make Luke and Vader clones....


    See, it could've been worse.
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  16. Django Fett Force Ghost

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    After being mentioned in threads all over in ST threads, these guys just won't die! [face_laugh]

    I think there's plenty of scope to link them via Rebels through the OT into Ep VII, what if the Inquisitors have taken over from Palps and rule the Empire council of war and the Jedi Hunters do their dirty work? Its basically the Rule of Two but multiplied, 4 or 5 masters with 4 or 5 apprentices.
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  17. mratm23 Jedi Grand Master

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    Probably some fakes people don't realize that they're written by fanboys.
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  18. Satipo Chosen One

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    I meant in the sense that people are asking as if they haven't been given an answer. I am saying here is the answer. If people don't like that answer that's fine. RE: the cyborg - I don't know. Worship/ obsession isn't always a two way street. Maybe Vader shut this pyscho out. Maybe this specific pyscho was only a kid when Vader was around. We don't know how old the character is supposed to be. Maybe the cyborg's hero-worship took place after Vader's death in the same way you still get Nazi nut-jobs idolising Adolf Hitler. I'm spitballing and I don't have all the answers for all the issues. RE: Vader - that's your take on it. I don't feel so cynical towards JJ so I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt for the time being, but if it was a director I wasn't a big fan of I would probably feel similarly. Also, I like the idea so of course I'll go easier on it :)
  19. starocean90 Chosen One

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  20. JediKnightWax Force Ghost

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  21. Adi_Gallia_9 Chosen One

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    Have you guys seen this article? It claims that while some of yesterday's rumors (like the stormtroopers and Darth Vader flashbacks) were correct, others, including the whole idea of inquisitors as the villains, are completely wrong. He was told that the villain, Adam Driver's character, is not robotic in nature at all.

    I'm not sure what to believe really!
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  22. Rabs Force Ghost

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    If something like this did happen I think I would have to stand up and cheer.
  23. nld3 Jedi Grand Master

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    I'm having a hard time with this Cyborg Sith rumor. He would be to much like a copy of Vader & Grevious.
  24. Satipo Chosen One

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    I wouldn't worry about it. There's clearly a stack of details we don't know and if there even is a cyborg, they don't appear to be the main villain.
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  25. jedijax Force Ghost

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    Regarding Vader:

    They marketed the heck out of Vader for ROTS and he was in two scenes and did nothing (after Anakin burned that is).

    If Vader showed up in a cave or a dream, they'd have enough fuel to re-market him.

    And a heavily damaged Vader mask/helmet could be incorporated into the new villain's headpiece that could be a very advanced, more threatening looking version of Vader.

    The Inquisitors already have a very Vader-esque looking body suit. Imagine a combination of Vader and that dude on the cover of The Star Wars comic from Dark Horse. There you have a pretty BA villain if you ask me. It's different enough to distinguish from your run of the mill cyborg used in every other movie.

    Why aren't the Inquisitors in the OT (besides the fact that they weren't conceptually invented yet)? Simple explanation to that which has been used over and over again and makes sense. While Vader and Palps were aiming at Luke for personal reasons, the Inquisitors were out hunting down any and every Force sensitive individual around the galaxy. Rebels could explain how the galaxy was not completely eradicated of Jedi or potential Jedi so they were rendered busy.

    Using the Inquisitors is a clever move because it expands the market for the Rebels characters. Perhaps one of the new characters is an offspring of someone in Rebels that becomes very popular.