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Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Jedi Gunny, May 22, 2008.

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  1. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    True, but as far as I know( I have no eu sources or anything else at the moment), but the rebel flight suits extend a force when they eject. Going by the films(ANH) why would they tell Porkins to eject if the suit didn't have any safety features, unless the cockpit seperates from the rest of the ship(which I doubt.) Anyways, no point in dwelling over a point that I can't prove.
     
  2. timmoishere

    timmoishere Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yeah, Rebel suits had a bubble of air that extended around the pilot, which would allow them to survive for a short time.
     
  3. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Fair enough. To get back on the topic of buzz droids, I think their purpose was solely a plot device and something to make the action a little more personal.
     
  4. Jedi Gunny

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    They did seem like something to add to the tension, but there still must have been some importance for buzz droids in the overall story arc.
     
  5. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    I got the impression they may have been originally designed as a larger droid, and they may have been inspired by certain science fiction artwork. But that's pure speculation.
     
  6. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

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    My point of view is that they were placed in the story to add tension as well as highlight the bond between Obi-Wan and Anakin when Anakin refuses to leave Obi-Wan to his fate.
     
  7. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    and don't forget Lucas telling us that we'd really see Anakin shine as a pilot in ROTS.

    I mean, I wouldn't imagine it would be relatively easy to fly a starfighter while shooting small droids off a friendly, then scraping them off with the wing.

     
  8. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Don't forget Lucas telling us that Aurra Sing would be in Episode II.
     
  9. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Or him telling us that Anakin Skywalker would be shown as the most powerful Jedi in ROTS.
     
  10. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    When did he say that?
     
  11. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Just before ROTS, when he was doing all this press to promote it. Lucas said that Anakin would be shown as the most powerful Jedi, and that Darth Vader would really get his time to shine.

    Both never really happened.
     
  12. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

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    I think that Anakin showed that a bit in killing Count Dooku but I agree that more could have been done to showcase that statement. Regardless, let's get this back on topic.
     
  13. Darthbane2007

    Darthbane2007 Jedi Master star 4

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    I assume that thy are designed as ship disablers; launch them at a clone fighter/jedi starfighter, and they would disable the ship, putting the pilot in danger.
     
  14. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

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    That's a fair point. Even if the buzz droid didn't cause the ship to crash, it still could have made the craft a sitting duck for the other CIS fighters.
     
  15. LordNyax113

    LordNyax113 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The Essential Guide for Droids essentially (no pun intended) puts it this way: buzz droids were cheap run of the mill fodder meant to be deployed in huge numbers so some collateral damage could be obtained. Basically, they are like BB guns to us; it'd be pretty darn hard to kill someone, but we can at least take an eye out. ;)
     
  16. HighlanderC

    HighlanderC Jedi Master star 1

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    What I can't understand is why didn't obi wan force push them away from the ship.... Its like jedi forget to use the force from time to time.
     
  17. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Although I can't exactly come up with an exact answer, I'm going to take a shot. He's flying a ship through a huge battle, with deaths every second and speeding towards a big ship. Using the force with deaths all around you isn't the most pleasant thing, and it requires a level of concentration to push them off one second of distraction could cost him flying into something.

    Also, we don't exactly know how well the force works in outer space, we've never really seen the force used in open space atmospheres.

    But thats just me trying to respond, I agree with your point in general.
     
  18. LordNyax113

    LordNyax113 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think it's been established that using the Force while piloting is not exactly a comon talent among Jedi. For example, in the Jedi Starfighter game, Adi Gallia must be trained by Saesee Tinn to use minor Force powers while piloting. I personally think the concetration required in both would be too much for some Jedi. Even Obi-Wan.
     
  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    So he stops piloting for a few moments ( something the droids pretty much took care of themselves ) and concentrates on getting rid of them... right?

    Or maybe it's just not that simple?

    For example - when have we ever seen Jedi Force-deflect missiles aimed at their ships?
     
  20. LordNyax113

    LordNyax113 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, judging by the even just small scope we had of the surrounding battle at the time, I think it is reasonable assume that even just a few seconds of neglecting your concentration on piloting could prove to be a fatal mistake. Think about it. Blaster fire everywhere, missiles, buzz droids, the list goes on. Not to mention they were in a hurry.

    It can be likened to driving. Take your eyes off the road, and when you least expect it, bam! Collision.
     
  21. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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  22. Jedi Gunny

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    There was so much going on that a few seconds of letting your guard down could kill you.
     
  23. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    I didn't see a whole lot of missiles or even enemy fire ( until they got close to the IH ).

    And when you have buzz droids tearing apart your ship, that's also likely to kill you.

    The problem with Force Push/Wave is that the cockpit is in the way, and they're in space.
     
  24. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Possibly it also has a connection that using the force too much is a bad thing. Jedi usually say to not exploit you're powers but Jedi naturally use the force to pilot. It's why their so good. To use the force to do something else you could be taking away that advantage as well as losing concentration as to where you're flying.


    Also, it wouldn't have looked as cool if Obi Wan just force pushed the droids off. Anakin shot at them, damaging Kenobi's ship, and then had to scrape them off. That's a little more suspenseful then just pushing them away
     
  25. Jedi Gunny

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    It took more time for Anakin to come and destroy all but one of the buzz droids by destroying Obi-Wan's wing. "Bad idea." That's a great line from that segment.
     
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