TV Discussion Homosexuality in Star Wars Television

Uh oh, Vorax figured us out. It wasn't supposed to get out that Marxists took over Disney a while ago. I'm sure everyone is going to be at a panic at the next Communist Global Domination (M-L) meeting I go to next week.

Though in all seriousness, homosexuality is just one of many traits a person can have. The reason it should be included somewhere in the canon isn't to right some social injustice. Instead, it should be included because homosexuality is one of many ways an author can make their character distinct. SW is going to have a growing number of characters who will all need little distinguishing characteristics. Just as an author might make the character tall, or give them red hair, an author might make a character homosexual to give them a detail that adds another small dimension.

Authors should take advantage of humanities diversity. 19th century values shouldn't limit the types of characters we can see.

 

I'll presume that you're from the United States, like the majority here, Vorax. In the USA, around 4% of the population - some 13 million or so - openly identify as part of the LGBT community. That says nothing of the myriad others who simply are too afraid of bigotry, too afraid to live their lives as they want. 13 million people is a huge number - for me, that is over half of the population of my homeland. I fail to see how 13+ million people's lives are "Far Leftist", Marxist politics.

The close-minded cling to "traditional family, accepted morality and natural law" promotes discontentment and unhappiness in the LGBT crowd; I know - I am a member. The feeling of inadequacy, that you're not "right" will only continue if media forms don't portray homosexual characters. Moreover, to not do so is a sham; it doesn't reflect reality. (And "natural law" as an argument is downright offensive, but that's another matter).

Who knows, perhaps one of your nieces, nephews, or your future children may turn out to be homosexual!




Okay, and back to Rebels: I would be thrilled if a gay character was included. However, I would be less thrilled if the show relied on tired stereotypes instead of character building to tell its story. I was unaware about the gay character in How To Train Your Dragon until this week (I never saw either one); that is a really cool, positive, and harmless step in the right direction. Moreover, I want diversity beyond sexual orientation: the old SWEU had an horrendous track record in terms of diversity, and I would like to see that path not taken this time. We need more women. We need more people of different ethnic background than white European. We need more aliens.

 

Elsa didn't need a man.

Yeah, here's hoping right? At the very least they could just hint at a character being homosexual for example.

Ezra motions his head to a rebel candidate: Huh, I never knew that she was that pretty.
Sabine: I did. Have you been living under a rock?

 

Without using Google, do you actually know what Marxism is?

 

See, I knew other people would handle that better than I would. Now I just have to wait and see if Vorax accepts that not every LGBT person is a Marxist.

 

Sure, why not. I mean an advanced space faring series with inter species relationships would be over the point of sexuality right?

 

I don't want to see homosexuality in Star Wars either. Why risk alienating people that are not accepting of homosexuality?
I don't think it is something Homosexuals are clamouring for anyway. "Chopper must be gay, chopper must be gay!" lol

 

A visual answer to the question "Why risk alienating people?":

 

I'm thinking of religious people. Comparing Christians/Muslims to racists is not an apt comparison and I would argue could be construed as offensive to millions of the worlds population. Best to leave well alone IMO.

As for the snarky comment about "welcome to the 20th century"...
Guess what, when the bible was written thousands of years ago, many accepted Homosexuality and beastiality way back then. So to say Christians are out of touch with modern life is a fallacy. The pagan lands the Israelites invaded practiced homosexuality. The ancient Greeks didn't even have a name for it, the practice was so common. They were also all pediophiles. It was normal thousands of years ago. Those that have followed the teaching of the bible have traditionally been reviled for their beliefs. We've just getting back tot hat now.

 

Just edited my comment to answer you in full.

 

Both racists and homophobes seek to deprive groups of people of basic human dignity and respect. Some attempt to use their outdated religious viewpoints as justification for the latter form of bigotry, but fundamentally there is no difference.

 

I made the point that In the bible all 3 are considered just as bad to God. Leviticus 18:22-27.
Not saying this is my personal view, but GOD'S.
Don't like it, hate him, not me.

But I didn't come to a star wars forum to discuss these things. I want fantasy, not real-world contentions. Let's just leave these things out of Star Wars.

 

Thank you. I'm going to leave the thread. I've come here to say what I wanted to say. And have nothing left to contribute. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to voice my thoughts. Peace.

 

I would be very open to having a gay character in Rebels, especially Sabine. Now whether they would actually have Sabine in a relationship or just hint at the fact that she is gay is my question. I know they had the two mothers on Good Luck Charlie, but I still have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that the network might block Rebels from showing Sabine (or whoever ends up being gay) in a relationship. But at the very least, when you have Weisman on a show, you can expect diversity. So we will probably have a gay character through subtext.

 

Any proof that your god exists? Any proof that their will is that which is in the bible? It's about as strong an argument as putting bastards to death, because the people of Westeros barely tolerate them. I don't really care much for ancient texts controlling how I live my life.

Mod EDIT: I warned to stay on topic, and I meant it.

 

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I could see them having Sabine chatting up a girl in a cantina or somewhere. Like, you can't really hear the dialogue but you can tell by their actions and maybe a giggle from said other girl.