ST Homosexuality and TFA

When was the last time you saw a gay romantic comedy? The studio is going to take advantage of what the majority is unthinkingly drawn to, not what is correctly concluded as being "no different."

 

I don't think I've ever watched a gay romantic comedy. However, I'm a big fan of Spartacus, Black Sails, and Penny Dreadful. All three have main gay/bi characters. Especially Spartacus.

 

I'm not sure what your point is, Darth Articulate. Are you actually, as you seem to be, arguing that Star Wars is, or should aspire to be, a focus group driven franchise that at all junctions takes the path of least resistance to avoid potentially upsetting or alienating anyone at all?

If so, that's a quite depressing point of view, and I'm not sure how one could even be a fan of something they believed to be quite so corporate driven - I accept there's a bit of that, just not that it's the be all and end all.

 

My point is that at this point and time, Disney is trying to recoup it's investment and as such, is likely to minimize financial risk and maximize financial gain. So it's worth considering what sort of effect the inclusion of a subject matter to which only a minority of audience members would be drawn will have on the marketing.

It would be vey difficult for me to pinpoint precisely why I'm a fan of the series, but suffice it to say it has something to do with the story told through the six existing films. My fandom began with an independent film series. It remains to be seen whether it will continue now that the series is no longer such. It is a corporate driven series now, like it or lump it. It will probably be enjoyable the way other corporate-driven series have been, but it's doubtful whether it will carry the same meaning for me now. We shall see.

 

Timon and Pumba were gay?

 

PK EDIT: Removed personal attacks

 

Has it been so long since you tossed out the word "homophobe" that you had to manufacture a reason to?[/quote]

i can't even see who you're talking to and that's just fine.

 

Which is why it wont happen true the US has moved forward faster then I expected quite frankly. But again how about that International Box Office? I dont think Disney is taking any extra risk, I mean we have heard JJ had to fight for John Boyega to even get in the film not for Daisy Ridley (who we all have about the same acting credentials as). So enlight of that color me shocked if we see any gay couple do anything of the "dreaded kissing and lovey dovey", a throwaway line perhaps more then that in this movie highly unlikely.

 

. Must be coming from you, because no one is making that assumption.

As opposed to inactively avoiding it? There's a difference between avoiding a movie and simply not enjoying one enough for a repeat viewing or to recommend it to others. I don't think simply having a homosexual character in a movie is uninteresting. I think having a homosexual relationship with the same degree of focus as the heterosexual Han and Leia relationship may take the majority of audience members out of the movie, not because they hate homosexuals, but because they can't relate to the relationship.

. Right. Because the only people who lower box office take are those who stubbornly refuse to see the films.

You're absolutely right. I totally forgot about all the Lion King scenes where the sexuality of Timon and Pumba became relevant.

 

Mod Warning: Knock it off with the personal attacks guys. You can either get along and take your bowls to the ban line.

 

. The sexuality of Han and Leia was completely relevant to their relationship and most of the scenes they were in together. All that sexual tension and romance between them would not have been there if one of them was gay. And it's that romance which is partly responsible for the box office success of the films. You don't think legions of heterosexual girls fawning over Han and legions of heterosexual boys dreaming about Leia had anything to do with the numbers?

. I think the astronomical box office take did, though.

. You make it sound like refusal is the only reason people don't have repeat viewings. Not true. Most people only go see a film once. That's the default. Someone might enjoy a film and not go back, simply because there was nothing that brought it to repeat-viewing status. That's a standard level of enjoyment. A higher level of enjoyment is when every part of the movie is so thoroughly engaging, that one can't wait to see it again. If a portion of the movie is not relatable to most of the movie going public, it probably won't reach the latter level for said majority.

This has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with profit. It has to do with what will naturally draw in the most people.

 

Flip that around too, and you add more fans.

 

Enough.