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I never had any issue with the GFFA using different words for common earth objects, places, and so on.

It adds the immersion-makes the reader think they are in a distant galaxy a long time ago.

 

I think it adds to the confusion, honestly.

It's a bathroom whether you call it a fresher or not.

 

What if there's no bath? Hmmmmm?

But yes. Why make up "space" words just to be different when we have words that already do the job.

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To let people immerse themselves in a fictional Galaxy? I totally agree with the thinking that as long as the context allows the reader to understand the word, then create a word that would fit the galaxy. Like Caf for coffee.

 

All those stupid near-what-the-thing-is-without-using-the-familiar-word words made reading SWEU even more of a chore than it needed to be. It only immerses if you have no sense the ludicrous, imo.

 

You don't think having Luke taking a swig of beer, or Leia putting on her joggers to go for a run, or Han listening to a rock band would have taken you out of Star Wars a bit?

 

Han listening to a "heavy isotope" band instead of a "heavy metal" band, might seem a little pretentious though.

 

Quite the opposite; the actual films didn't introduce much bafflegab at all. That was mostly an unimaginative contrivance of the SWEU.

 

Some like that work similiar to credits - dollars/pounds.

Battlestar Galactica in the original series tried the whole centon/micron thing for measurements of time or distance for both the "outer-space" thing but to depict a different culture that was supposed to be typcial of the Earth's (the 13th colony of Kobol) distant relatives.

However that show like Star Wars/GFFA used Commander,Captain,Centurion,Council and other very earthly references for many things at same time as using the not so earthly.

Felgercarb in the original - frak in the remakes also were funny examples of this.

 

I wondered if "micron" as a unit of time was a deliberate shot at Lucas use of "parsec" in a way that made it seem like a unit of time.

 

Easily could be given Glenn A. Larson about half of 1977 and then some of 1978 to look over A New Hope and see what he could "borrow" albeit in an altered fashion.

 

not only do I disagree generally but this in particular is a really bad example, because "bathroom" is the sort of English word that has a dozen different synonyms which vary greatly by region, so adding yet another that's not used anywhere on earth but is still easily understandable from context is a neat way of adding a bit of flavor and making you feel like the characters are speaking a dialect from a galaxy far, far away rather than, I dunno, Nebraska. Yeah, it can get excessive-- awkward constructions like "backrocket" or "felinx and rodus" or whatever-- but there's an art to it, and stuff like "(re)fresher" and "lum" and "caf" and "(turbo)lift" and "slicer" are fun, organic constructions that make the setting feel distinct.

As for "fascist": I'm surprised to see everyone so staunchly defending its use, here. I think it's pretty self-explanatory why it's a more jarring term to come across than something like Emperor or Republic or whatever, which are words that have existed for millennia and been universalized; fascism, in contrast, is something that still evokes a specific period in our history and is generally used to evoke that. Like, obviously the Empire is intentionally supposed to seem pretty fascist, but I'd agree using the term in-universe is just clunky, especially when there's other options.

 

Han listening to a rock band would've been infinitely better than anyone listening to Jizz music. Jatz isn't much better, but at least it's less of a linguistically sticky situation than Jizz was.

Is there no beer in SW? That's stupid.

Caf or Coffeine or Coffee. All were used in SW. Which I think is part of the problem with space words. Authors didn't always agree on what need to be space-ified so while we're getting coffee alternatives we're also just getting coffee.

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Lots of ale - which is a kind of beer.

 

It's a big galaxy. Just on our one planet we have people calling the same beverage coke, soda, pop, soda pop, fizzy drink, etc.

 

With the Facists who had German sounding accents calling it "Fanta"

 

Fanta isn't Coke. Fanta is orange.

 

I don't see anywhere where I said Fanta is coke.

I did say what it'd be called if German sounding Facists made something soda pop.

 

Fanta is coke in the places that call all soft drinks "coke."

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Actually, if you look at the historical circumstances surrounding the initial rise of fascism proper in Italy, the traits and policies it evoked - a reaction to the devastation of World War I, anti-bureaucracy and anti-parliamentarianism, anti-corruption, anti-elites, anti-clerical, unification of a very geographically and culturally-divided country, modernism, seeking to revive the nation's ancient glory, militarism, a Third Way beyond the existing political divide, coming to power by subverting rather than overthrowing the existing political system, the immediate impetus for seizing power being a spurious claim of a coup by a competing political faction - fascism seems a very accurate term for the circumstances surrounding Palpatine's rise. Just replace World War I with the Clone Wars, and both the Communist Party and Catholic Church with the Jedi, and there you go.

I like how in the BSG remake, felgercarb became a brand of toothpaste.

Farscape I thought was particularly good at coming up with made-up expletives that, while obviously invented, made it perfectly clear exactly what it was intended to express (not to mention, they just sounded like something an angry person would yell). It also helped that those expletives were used in a coherent, consistent way.

 

I wanted orange. It gave me lemon-lime.

 

Depends on the breakdown between the "Legendary" aspect of starwars and the post WWII influence on the original creators.
Does Han take a swing of Ale, Mead, various types of Wine (Sake, Palm wine, Grapes), or the more modern Beer.

Would Han listen to rock or, Opera/Orchestral, Griot story telling, Bard music, Indian Raagas, or the massive catalog of east Asian traditional musics. It really come down on how much post WWII americana you like in your starwars.

 

God I love Farscape.

 

I think all linguistic words are inherently related to something specifically cultural in the world. Fascist is no different from anything else.

 

The word that always sticks out like a sore thumb when I hear it is when Obi-wan talks about a damn fool idealistic crusade. What, the Jedi all stitched crosses onto their robes and went on an armed pilgrimage to free the holy land from the Sith?