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How did Ahsoka still become a Padawan at age 14?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Jedi-Dan-D, Dec 8, 2012.

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  1. Jedi-Dan-D

    Jedi-Dan-D Jedi Youngling

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    I remember reading about Obi-Wan, it says if youngling's aren't selected to be Padawans by age 13, they don't get trained to be Jedi, they get transferred to other services of the Jedi Core.

    And when Qui-Gon passed by, I guess what happen was Obi-Wan wanted to prove he could be a Padawan but got dueled his rival with so much anger that Qui-Gon thought he was too reckless. When Obi-Wan turned 13, he was transferred. Later on the same planet I guess, Qui-Gon was in trouble, and Obi-Wan who happened to be there saved him, and Qui-Gon decided to take Obi-Wan as his Padawan afterall.

    So if Ahsoka was 14 at the start of the Clone Wars, why wasn't she transferred to other services a year ago, instead she's still at the temple another year and becomes a Padawan a year after her Youngling time expired.
     
  2. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    I'll sum it up for you quickly.

    TCW doesn't care about what has happened in the EU.

    Welcome to LACWAC! Enjoy your stay.
     
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  3. hlc88

    hlc88 Jedi Master star 4

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    Because that might not gell with what George Lucas has in mind for Jedi younglings. What happens in the EU doesn't necessarily happen in GL's universe ;)

    In-universe explanation can be is that Ahsoka is far too powerful to lose as a Jedi. It also depends on what age a Youngling would leave, how far into their 13th year are they sent? She could have been about to be sent when the Clone Wars started and she turned 14 shortly after.
     
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  4. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    The only problem with that is Anakin's line: "You know, I don't even think you're old enough to be a Padawan."

    Her original age was 12 per GL but was later changed to 14 when the movie came out.
     
  5. Brenapp

    Brenapp Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Could they have changed the rules slightly since Obi-Wan's Padawan days, giving Younglings an extra year to be apprenticed?
     
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  6. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I for one am glad that stupid, totally arbitrary rule is gone. In fact, I wouldn't mind if the final season of clone wars was nothing but undoing every last bit of those Jedi Apprentice/Jedi Quest books. They're awful and ought to be burned :p
     
  7. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    They did need all the Jedi they could train after the Clone Wars broke out, that's a possibility. As is knighting earlier.
     
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  8. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    How do you know Ahsoka was not a padawan to some other Jedi before Anakin Skywalker?
    Also, please realize that one of Ahsoka's many Force powers is the ability to create multiple threads about herself.
     
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  9. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Maybe they changed the age when The Clone Wars broke out
     
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  10. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    He just joined and probably didn't know about the Ahsoka discussion thread. ;)
    Welcome to LACWAC Jedi-Dan-D!
     
  11. hlc88

    hlc88 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well she doesn't look her true age so I think we can forgive Anakin for that :p
     
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  12. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

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    The best in-universe explanation is that the rules have changed since when Obi-Wan was that young. There was reference in the Genndy micro series to there being a shortage of Jedi and also recently in the opening narration for The Gathering.

    The real out-of-universe explanation is probably more along the lines of what CT-867-5309 said. TCW is not following the EU, and I'll add that I wouldn't expect the sequel trilogy to either. GL doesn't seem to regard new EU any more highly than the Marvel comics from before Ep. V.
     
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  13. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    I haven't watched the movie in a while, but at least in "The New Padawan," I was thinking she looked younger than in Seasons 1-2. (Like shorter or something) Maybe I'm just remembering that wrong though. :p It would make sense though since she was originally much younger than her now official age.
     
  14. hlc88

    hlc88 Jedi Master star 4

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    I would agree with you there. She does seem shorter in the movie, only slightly. I've been doing a 'Clone Wars marathon' and just started Season 3 today and I'm getting to the point where they age her up, where she gets taller too. It's very strange that in S5 she's basically as tall as Obi-Wan compared to how short she is in earlier seasons. If they do anymore aging of her she could even get to Anakin's height by the end of the show!
     
  15. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    or taller than Anakin :p
     
  16. KenobiSkywalker

    KenobiSkywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Not likely. :p I didn't think she was much taller than she is now when they showed her future self in the Mortis arc.
     
  17. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    She was envisioned at 12, but then with all the backlash against a pre-teen wearing a tube top and micro mini while surrounded by male troops...she magically aged to 14. ;)
     
  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    QFT. Normally I'm not big on the show retconning the EU but I'm happy to see as much of Jude Watson's tripe rendered non-canon as possible. Sorry, Obi-Wan/Siri fans.

    It makes far more sense to promote a Jedi based on ability and readiness as opposed to chronological age anyway. That was my understanding from the films and the non-Watson EU as to how they granted Knighthood and Mastery.

    I also think a few Jedi got promoted early due to the war. Karen Miller indicated that Anakin was Knighted early, and over Obi-Wan's protests, because of the war. And similar early promotions happened in the US military during World War II.
     
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  19. Togruta

    Togruta Jedi Master star 4

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    It doesn't seem that far-fetched that Jedi would limit Padawans by age, judging by the comments about Anakin and Luke both being too old for it.
     
  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That was acceptance into the Order, not elevation from youngling to padawan.
     
  21. Togruta

    Togruta Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, but it doesn't exactly make the Jedi Order look very open-minded to individuals being ready in their own time.
     
  22. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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