Yeah, they know how to do it. Luke doesn't ever use a Force shove. Thus he'd be owned by a Force shove. Especially a king size one that Obi-wan used on Grievous and tried to use on Anakin. Luke has used telekinetic powers. He lifted Threepio up in the air, which is the same concept as a Force push. I see no evidence that Luke would be owned by a Force push. Vader wasn't able to defeat him this way. Grievous is a non-Force user, so its a lot easier to Force push him than it is to Force push Luke. This is why Vader Force chokes Imperial officers, but doesn't Force choke Luke or Obi-Wan. Lex Luthor isn't scary. Blofeld wasn't scary. Moriarty isn't scary. The Wicked Witch had to be scary, because MGM wanted it to be that way. The Emperor already was portrayed as "scary" in ROTJ. That's how the character was envisioned, so the films should continue to make him seem just as frightening. No, it's because those films ****. Not because of the scariness. But because they were poor films all around. I think that a lack of shock factor contributes to the poor quality of the film. Some people thought that Mark of the Vampire was a good film up until the point where its revealed that the "vampires" are charlatans. In the same way, when people go into a film expecting to see an ultra-powerful villain based on a previous film, they are going to be disappointed if he appears weaker. Nope. Who says that he's talking about Palpatine? Maybe he is refering to the Dark Side. The Dark Side owns him. It controls him. Palpatine just gives orders, but it's the Dark Side that makes him do what he does. He said: "I must obey my Master." Vader must be referring to the Emperor, since he is Vader's Master. The dark side isn't an animate person, so it can't give Vader direct orders. Vader can only feel tempted to continue using the dark side.