PT How did Palpatine know Obi-Wan would find Kamino?

Obi-Wan found Kamino by doing research on the dart used by Jango Fett to kill the assassin that attempted to kill Padme.

It's clear that Palpatine wanted the Jedi to discover the clones at this time, but how did Palpatine know that Obi-Wan would do research on that dart, or that a situation would arise where the assassination attempt on Padme would fail and the assassin would need to be killed in the first place?

 

Does Palpatine need Kenobi to find them? Or can he just let the CIS do their thing and then pull the clones out of his hat some other way?

Either way, I'm sure this has been discussed a million times in one of the million threads discussing the mystery surrounding the existence of the clones, the Jedi/Yoda's decision to use them, the Senate's approval, etc etc etc.

 

Part of the plan. Palpatine wanted Padme dead so he told Dooku to use the bounty hunter that created the clones (Jango), they knew eventually he would probably get somebody else to do it and that they would slip up. When that happened he was told to use a specific weapon that the Jedi would need to investigate to find out where it came from, and that they would then go there and discover what was going on. When a Jedi turns up leave the planet and meet up with Dooku on Geonosis and tell him it had worked, knowing that the Jedi would probably follow Jango to see if he could find out who Jango was working for. Obi-Wan turns up Dooku captures him (Knowing he Jedi would come after Obi-Wan) and that it would create an opportunity for the droids to kill a lot of Jedi, Making Palpatine's job of destroying the Jedi order easier. BISH BASH BOSH, JOB DONE.

 

No, it isn't.

He didn't.

He didn't know that either.

And also try to blow the Jedi up along the way, he was probably told that too.

 

I doubt Palpatine knew everything that would happen (his boasts notwithstanding), but his plan was such that he could adjust to whatever might happen and still come out as absolute ruler.

 

He certainly had to engage in a lot of adjusting in "TPM" in order for his plans to come to fruition.

 

Lucas planned it, although I don't believe that counts.

 

like the way lucas wrote the prequels and original trilogy?

 

Actually, it is.

"The other part of this is that Palpatine's maneuvering things and getting Obi-wan and Anakin to be with the Queen again. And part of it is to get Obi-wan to find the clones and the Clone Army. Which is part of this set up is for. Because they're being lead along this path, the Jedi, toward accepting this Clone Army and for Palpatine to get powers beyond the ones that are the constitution powers for an elected official. He wants to have certain more, uh, more encompassing powers, which an emergency allows him to have."

--George Lucas, AOTC commentary.

 

That can be read different ways.

Try this:

Call up a pizza place. Order a pizza. Say you're coming to pick it up.

Then just don't show up.

What happens?

 

Palpatine needed a Jedi to find Kamino, easy since Jango would ( one way or another through detective work) lead to the planet.He suggests Kenobi and Anakin since that would be even better, but if worse comes to worse and they are not available then another Jedi works just as well.

 

You send someone to get it. Ergo, Jango uses a Kamino Saber dart which is ultimately traced.

 

Dex= Palpatine in an alien fat suit

you heard this theory here first

 

Is there a way I can like this by multiples? LOL

 

Palpatine was very good in seeing the future. It could even be argued he was more powerful than Yoda in that aspect. We know seeing the future is a power that Force Users have, that is not up to debate as it is seen many times in the movies. Luke is a relative novice in ESB and is able to see the Future.

So what happens is that Palpatine's plans are a mix of seeing the future, and inserting his plans into the outcomes of what he sees in the future. He sees that the assassination attempts fail, so he uses the attempts to first get Obi Wan involved in the events of what's going on. The how's and why's of the Dart can be looked at two different ways. Either Palpatine saw the future, and saw that Jango Fett in an absolute moment of being a dumb ass uses a dart that is traceable, so Palpatine makes sure that Obi Wan is involved to find said dart, or, Jango was told to use the Dart to get rid of Zam, probably as an after the fact precaution. It just so played out that he had to do it right in front of the Jedi, rather than after the fact to hide his trail. Either way Palpatine was able to use the dart as the first bread crumb to lure Obi Wan to the Clone Army:

 

i don't think palps planned every single detail all the time but he did maneuver things in a general direction. i think this is one of those cases. he was going to use the clone army anyway and get someone to discover it. he also used the geonosis incident to start the war this way. if the situation fits use it.

 

If that were true, why get Dooku to delete any information about it from the Jedi Archives? How could he know that Obi-Wan would turn to a friend who happened to have been prospecting years ago and luckily could pinpoint the origin of the dart?

 

No, by "then just don't show up" I meant "you don't show up, you don't send someone to get it, you don't do anything, you wait and see what happens".

What happens?

Always in motion, the future is.

 

For Yoda and the Jedi, maybe, Yoda doesn't speak for a Sith Lord.

To stop a Jedi from accidentally, or prematurely finding it before the 10 year mark (when the first round of clones matured), when Palpatine was ready for them to be found.

 

Kamino was erased to keep the Jedi from finding out about it too soon. Once they were ready, the dart was used. The Sith kept tabs on Obi-wan and knew who his allies were and how he could find Kamino.

The pizza is tossed in the trash. Fortunately, that wasn't going to happen because Palpatine set things up so that the Jedi could find it. Face it, they were set up. You can think it's overtly complicated, but then so was the plan to find Yavin 4.

 

The Sith knew about Dexter and that Obi-Wan would ask for his help? I find that hard to believe....

The dart was used to silence Zam before she could reveal Jango's identity. Why not let her speak?

 

"Kamino was erased to keep the Jedi from finding out about it too soon. Once they were ready, the dart was used. The Sith kept tabs on Obi-wan and knew who his allies were and how he could find Kamino."

no. they didn't use a dart because they knew obi would talk to dexter, who knew about kamino and bla bla bla...

In 22 BBY, Jango Fett used a saberdart to kill Zam Wesell, preventing her from identifying him to Jedi KnightObi-Wan Kenobi and JediPadawanAnakin Skywalker. Although the analysis droids in the Jedi Temple were unable to determine the origin of the dart, Dexter Jettster was able to identify it and direct Kenobi to Kamino.

they couldn't find the dart manufacturer. dexter happened to know. then obi couldn't find the planet dexter told him about. he had to take the problem to yoda who helped him figure it out. palps assumed the jedi would find out somehow but he didn't know every little thing they would do.