How did Yoda know about Rule of Two?

I posted this elsewhere but this has always bothered me.

Yoda knows about the Rule of Two for the Sith. But . . . Wasn't the rule of two created by Darth Bane after the Sith nearly wiped themselves out? The same point where the Jedi thought the Sith were extinct? The Jedi Council states that the Sith had been gone for a millenia yet Yoda says that there are always two. How would he know if this wasn't implemented till after they went underground?

 

Because Yoda was around when the Sith were the rulers of the Galaxy. 800 years prior to TPM.

 

800 years ago the sith were taken out by Yoda and they thought they were extinct, but Bane made up some rule about only having 2 and it stayed that way and they waited until they had there revenge. I think thats how it is i dont read Eu or anything.

 

GL said something like that, along the lines of Palpatine possibly being a remnant from that era, staying alive using secret Sith techniques he learned from his master, Darth Plagueis.

So, if Yoda was alive during the time of the Great Sith War (as I believe it is called) 800 years prior to the Galactic Civil War, then surely the Jedi at the time knew the structure of the Sith Order. If the Sith are the enemy and the Jedi need to find them and destroy them, they must have done extensive research and reconaissance into the subject and the whereabouts and identities of the Sith lords. Since the Sith were believed to be extinct, the limited Jedi knowledge of the Sith disappeared when the last Jedi from that era died...except Yoda, who apparently was tight-lipped about any knowledge he had of the Sith, up until the events of TPM.

 

This question is why there is material for a prequel to the prequel!

 

Its 1000 years ago that the sith war accurred, therefore making since of "The sith have been extinct for a millenium" not "theyve been out of the picture for about a millenium, give or take a couple hundred years"

 

No I am not buying any of these answers. Somehow, Yoda KNEW that there were only two and it seems that the other Jedi did not. Otherwise why tell Windu at the end of TPM? Also, even if he had encountered Sith, one or two at a time, how would he know there were ONLY 2? How would any Jedi know ANYTHING about the Sith after they went underground. It seems obvious that Yoda has encountered Sith before and in enough detail to know something of their ritual, tradition, etc.

 

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well concidering that Yoda has been around for 800 odd years he does know some stuff, i think that he told mace at then end was becuase Yoda thought that the sith was no more, they have not been seen for more then a couple of hundard of years so yeah, Yoda was surprise i think by the sudden emergence of the sith. That is y he told mace.

 

Wasn't the Sith war the war that was being fought in KOTOR,4000 years before TPM.
Anyway. The story goes that after or during the sith war, the sith nearly wiped each other out fighting for control. So only Darth Bane was left and he created rule of 2.
Now, how could yoda know this, since the Sith Order was somewhat of a secret.
I'm not sure about how many years before TPM Bane re-organized the Sith Order, but the plan Sidious executes in ROTS is a 2000 year old plan by the order.

So this is my take on how Yoda knows(and its quite possible Mace and the other masters know too).

After the Great Sith War 4000 yrs before TPM, the sith almost wipe each other out and only two are left. Bane reforms the order. Fast Foward another one or two thousand years and two sith lords start another war against the jedi and republic. Good guys win yet again and jedi find out about the rule of two , but think they have finally wiped out the sith. But maybe the master or apprentice survive and decide to go into secrecy again and wait for a time when it is an ideal time to bring down the republic and the jedi.

Now I haven't played KOTOR 2, so this probably dosen't fit in with the story.
Please don't be too cranky with me If what I just wrote up dosen't make sense.

 

The Jedi Archives.

Enough said.

 

KOTOR isn't canon

 

Maybe when Yoda was first learning to use the force information on the Sith was taught to the Jedi, but by Mace's time, so long after the Sith had been known to be extinct, it was dropped from the curriculum. At that point, the Jedi probably only heard little bits and pieces about them, and the majority of it was all in the archives.

 

I like the theory drumstick

 

It took time to "exterminate" the Sith. During that period the Jedi would have noticed this new pattern repeating itself - until the last Sith/Apprentice team found a good hiding place & escaped.

 

Maybe we're taking what he said in too large of a scale. I don't know any official explanation but maybe it was just meant to say whoever this is didn't learn this out of nowhere. He had to be taught by someone or to continue the Sith ways requires teaching someone else. I doubt he knew of the rule, he was just rationalizing that the Sith arts don't just pop in your head and you wouldn't risk them being gone if you died so there must be at least one other than Maul.

 

Yoda only said that line to make it clear to the audience. I'm sure all of the Jedi knew their Sith history and know that their nature is to destroy themselves, thus there is always only two due to issues of trust.

It's not really a "rule" since Darth Vader and the Emperor openly act as if Luke can become the "3rd Sith" (despite them both plotting against each other). It's just the way the Sith end up, always.

 

Becaue Yoda is really old and wise. Refrences to anything outside the movies is hogwash.

 

All_Powerful_Jedi thats not true because sidious was counting on vader to overthrow him he even says it in ep.3

 

That is a good question How did Yoda Know?

 

Because just like the Jedi they are paired up. The Jedi can't break the code and have two apprentices at a time. So logically when the Sith were at large and had large fractions through out the galaxy they too had 1 master per apprentice. Yoda is just using logic that must be stored about events that took place before he was born in the Jedi Temple archives.

I mean it just seems logical.

 

The theory everyone wants to say, but is to scared to:

YODA IS A SITH IN DISGUISE! If Palps could do it, Yoda definitely could. He was waiting for the perfect time for everything to fall into place. That's why he pretended to refuse to train Luke. It's because it caused Luke some anguish, to think he couldn't be trained. Then, Yoda did all kinds of things that helped Luke, but wasn't really enough for him to beat Vader. Yoda wanted Luke to fall. Yoda was probably the Sith apprentice to Darth Bane's apprentice, and then acted as an undercover Jedi agent for years, passing along information to the Sith. He was absent from the mess when Palps was first discovered to be Sith. Sure, he was on a mission, but he put himself there on purpose, so he wouldn' be exposed when Palps was unmasked, keeping his identity safe for a longer period of time. Then, Yoda was jealous that Palps would get all the notoriety of being a Sith, so he tried to kill him, under the guise of trying to bring back order to the galaxy. That explains all of Yoda's actions.

 

How did Yoda know about Rule of Two?

Maybe we'll find out in the prequel prequel.

 

Okay, it's very simple.

THE SITH ARE TWO!! They were that way before the Jedi thought they were extinct. First there were many, than there were only two, and then the Jedi thought they killed both of them, but at least on secretly survived. And what do you mean it seems like the other Jedi didn't know about the rule of two?! The only line referencing it was Yoda saying "Alsways two there are..." How the hell does that make it seem like the other Jedi didn't know?

Slimy!

 

The Wookies told him.