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"How do you kill a man without fear?" -Databank update

Discussion in 'Literature' started by masterskywalker, Nov 8, 2004.

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  1. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "It was Anakin who single-handedly transformed inevitable defeat into victory on numerous occasions. Encounters on worlds such as Cato Niemoidia and elsewhere cemented Anakin and Obi-Wan's legendary reputations. Throughout the Republic, citizens would spread tales of the two Jedi heroes -- Anakin's hologenic features and daring exploits earned him the moniker of "The Hero Without Fear." Skywalker became a celebrity of the state, despite Jedi ascetics frowning upon such accolades."

    Case closed, Anakin was the hero of the Republic and the poster boy rock star of the Jedi. Too cool, can't wait to see Luke and Leia find this old records which refer to their old man as "The Hero Without Fear." It also fits into what Dooku said to Asajj about the nature of the Sith:

    "A Sith has no fear."

    Man did Palps luck out. If the Jedi had actually done a halfway decent job of training and trusting Anakin, he would have lost his most useful servant.

    P.S.-

    And STILL the Jedi feared and distrusted Anakin. DON'T SPOILER EPIII they again show a complete lack of trust towards their "Chosen One." The Jedi Council so completely screwed the pooch here I'm speechless. They practically handed over one, if not THE most valuable members of their Order in to the pocket of the Sith. For an clositered order that claimed "fear" was the path to the darkside, they sure had an awful lot of it towards their suposed savior. Stupid, stupid stupid stupid.

    Stupid.
     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    It explains Anakin pretty damn well I think and I'm going to update my thoughts onto the Skywalker thread in a bit.

     
  3. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Something else of note from the data bank updates...

    During the Clone Wars, Kenobi ascended to the rank of Jedi Master, and he occupied a position in the Jedi Council. He was able to contribute to the highest levels of Jedi strategy, and such a vaunted position allowed him to witness the strain between the Jedi order and the Office of the Chancellor firsthand.


    Hmmmph. I wonder if Obsession will chronicle his ascent to mastery...

     
  4. TIEDefenderPilot

    TIEDefenderPilot Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Is Anakin also a lawyer in Hell's Kitchen? Sheesh.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Skywalker is surely racking up those titles...

    "Boonta Eve Champion"
    "Chosen One"
    "Jedi Knight"
    "Warrior of the Infinite"
    "The Man Without Fear"
    "Dark Lord of the Sith"

    Perhaps even "The Son of Suns".
     
  6. Forceful

    Forceful Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah, I just read that about Obi-Wan. I think that's awesome, personally. It makes it feasible that Obi-Wan could defeat the chosen one of the force.

    I wouldn't be surpsrised if Obsession indeed showed his promotion. Perhaps his killing and/or conversion of Asajj will prompt the council to EPIII spoiler.
     
  7. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Master star 5

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    Hmmmph. I wonder if Obsession will chronicle his ascent to mastery...

    It was pretty much a given, considering Anakin became a Jedi Knight in Jedi Trial.

    Therefore, Obi-Wan's already a master in Obsession.
     
  8. Forceful

    Forceful Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I always was confused as to what defined a Master and a Knight, though. Is it simply when your padawan becomes a knight that you become a master?

    Skywalker is surely racking up those titles...

    Don't forget "Dad of the Year"
     
  9. Cynical

    Cynical Jedi Youngling star 2

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    "Human Resources' Enemy #1" gotta be there too somewhere
     
  10. Nightowl

    Nightowl TFN Timetales Writer star 4 VIP

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    "The Man in Black."






    Hey, SOMEBODY had to say it. ;)
     
  11. TIEDefenderPilot

    TIEDefenderPilot Jedi Youngling star 3

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    More like
    "The Jerkwad of the Galaxy"
     
  12. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    The frontman for Soothers. [face_laugh]

    . . . that's not funny, much.
     
  13. MariahJade2

    MariahJade2 Former Fan Fiction Archive Editor star 5 VIP

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    "The Man in Black."

    LOL! Now that's sig worthy.

    When do we get the Boxed CD set? ;)
     
  14. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    Hey, SOMEBODY had to say it.

    Yeah, but...why? :p
     
  15. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've had to edit out two EPIII spoilers already in this thread. If I have to edit out another anytime soon, this thread will be locked.
     
  16. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It was pretty much a given, considering Anakin became a Jedi Knight in Jedi Trial.

    Therefore, Obi-Wan's already a master in Obsession.

    Not true, successfully training a padawan does not make one a master, otherwise Saesee Tinn would never have become a master.

    Perhaps Obi-Wan turning away from the dark path and the eventual turning of Assajj and maybe even saving of Bail Organa will make him a master. All this could happen in Obsession.
     
  17. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Master star 5

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    Not true, successfully training a padawan does not make one a master, otherwise Saesee Tinn would never have become a master.

    No, you're wrong. There are a couple of ways to become a Master. Training a padawan is one of them. Saesee Tinn became a Master a different way.

    Everyone who's trained a padawan is a Master.

    Therefore, if Anakin became a knight in Jedi Trial, there's no way that Obi-Wan ISN'T a master.
     
  18. dizfactor

    dizfactor Jedi Knight star 5

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    No, you're wrong. There are a couple of ways to become a Master. Training a padawan is one of them. Saesee Tinn became a Master a different way.

    Everyone who's trained a padawan is a Master.

    Therefore, if Anakin became a knight in Jedi Trial, there's no way that Obi-Wan ISN'T a master.


    exactly. everyone who's trained a Padawan to Knighthood is a Master, even though not everyone who is a Master trained a Padawan to Knighthood.

    training a Padawan to Knighthood is the most common path to becoming a Master, and it's automatic. when Anakin is Knighted, Obi-Wan automatically became a Master. if Anakin had not been knighted, there are other ways Obi-Wan could have become a Master, like Saesee Tiin did, but it's a moot point, since he became one when Anakin was knighted.
     
  19. DarthTerrious

    DarthTerrious Jedi Master star 5

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    He couldn't share his darker thoughts with his fellow Jedi -- the thoughts that overwhelmed him that night in the Tusken Raider village.

    Hmmm contradiction with a certain Republic comic? ;)
     
  20. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Everyone who's trained a padawan is a Master.

    Therefore, if Anakin became a knight in Jedi Trial, there's no way that Obi-Wan ISN'T a master.


    Ok, now I can finally understand that Vos became a master years before Obi-Wan while he had always struggled with the dark side.
     
  21. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So he saved Hyrule while being blind? I don't get it.
     
  22. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    So he saved Hyrule while being blind?

    YES.

    And as for how to kill a man without fear, I think ten snipers with AK-47s would probably do the trick.
     
  23. -RebelScum-

    -RebelScum- Jedi Master star 6

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    well... you can kill a man without fear with alot of things... knives, guns, broken sticks, oversized starwars novels....
     
  24. 7-7-7

    7-7-7 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I hope all of you who argue that Obi-Wan automatically becoming a master at Anakin's knighthood realize that you are also arguing for Mara's Jedi Masterhood as well...
     
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