How do you Think Humans Will Die Out?

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  1. CmdrMitthrawnuruodo Force Ghost

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    Then a mercenary army sinks an oil tanker carrying another 600-ton amphibious tank that leads to the construction of a oil clean up facility off the coast of New York. When the President of the United States visits to inspect the facility a terrorist group calling themselves the Sons of Liberty will than hijack the facility and hold the President hostage. Threaten to destroy the facility which will result in the world's greatest ecological disaster and a nuclear strike unless their demands are met. It will later turn out that the leader of that terrorist group happened to be a former President who fell out of favor of a very secret organization. Underneath is the threat of humanity's existance, a submarine that is 1000x times larger than the ballistic submarines, with a payload of nuclear warheads and more 600-ton amphibious tanks.


    And yes I have played Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty waaaaay too much too.
  2. Grieve Jedi Knight

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    My bet is on some sort of disease. Obviously, the world will end sometime, no matter what. But I doubt we will survive anywhere near that long. But I think there will always be some sort of life here until then.
  3. DESERTJEDI Jedi Master

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    Man some of you guys are so depressing. You are like humanty is stupid and therefore we are going to kill ourselves

    We already are. :(
  4. Jauhzmynn Jedi Master

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    God has an amazing GOOD plan for us, it's jsut we refuse to cooperate thinking we'er all that and a bag of chips. If we continue to be foolish and arrogant, we'll destroy ourselves. IF we co-operate and WORK with our creator, we'll be more powerful, satisfied, and peacful than we even think or imagine. I KNOW we'll extend beyound this world to others beyound this solar system. It's a very strong feeling I have. (sorry for the Lukism but it IS true.)


    padawan Mynn
  5. Riku Jedi Knight

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    We won't die during our life-time.
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    Well, it's true! :)

    Ok, I really can't even guess what'll kill us. Virus, greenhouse effect, meteor... But, frankly, I don't care. It's good if we all die. :p
  6. Master_Ari Jedi Knight

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    Riku, don't say that. If we don't have life, we can't have hope. No hope or the future, then what do we have to live for?
  7. DESERTJEDI Jedi Master

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    But then the roaches and coyotes will be free to form very technological societies. :p
  8. Riku Jedi Knight

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    Riku, don't say that. If we don't have life, we can't have hope. No hope or the future, then what do we have to live for?

    Hahaa, you fell into your own trap! [face_laugh] If we don't live, we don't live. Although there would be hope after that, we wouldn't be here. And THAT would be a good thing.

    Of course, even a BETTER option would be that the human would have never been born. :)
  9. Devilanse Jedi Grand Master

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    Nuke war. I believe the cogs are already spinning in that machine.
  10. Master_Ari Jedi Knight

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    But if there is life, there is hope, therefore we have something to live for.
  11. Ssorrol Jedi Knight

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    do you guys actually believe humanity will even exist to see the year 3000 AD? i have my doubts mainly becuase im christian and i believe revelation will come true (anyone here heard of the Left Behind series?)

    however, if the end has no religious relation, then i believe the human race is most likely to destroy itself if we continue on the current track were on. technology would most likely have a hand in this. i mean, look at how far weve come since the year 1000 AD!! imagine what it would be like in 3000- earths existence doesnt even seem plausible.
  12. Aftermath Jedi Knight

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    Disclaimer: Just so people don't think I'm really morbid to have come up with this detailed outline: I've been working on a post-civilization era story for a while and this series of events I've based it around.

    The End of Civilization, cerca 2200 (Mark your calenders)

    Global warming --> melting at the poles (particularly the Greenland Ice Cap, which is melting considerably in the present day) --> increased fresh water in polar oceans --> disruption of the global conveyer belt current that transfers heat around the world (cerca 2100)--> increased temperatures at equator, lower temperatures at poles --> increased weather activity --> more fresh water arrives at poles in form of rain --> fresh water has higher tendencies to freeze --> New glaciers for in a run-away cycle of glaciation --> New Ice Age (cerca 2200) --> drying and cooling of the world(prominently in Europe and American Mid-West) --> major disruption of food production and water supplies --> population plummets (estimates for Europe is 96% death rate) --> "Third-world" nations collapse & better organized nations attempt to conquer remaining bits of viable farmland --> Lengthy wars (non-nuclear, nuclear weapons would anti-productive) --> eventually even organized nations crumble --> end of civilization (AKA "the world as we know it")

    Other things we need to watch out for in the "near" future:

    The Sixth Extinction: By 2050, according to some modern estimates, 50% of species currently living on the planet won't be anymore. Earth hasn't seen an extinction like this since the Cretaceous, and we can't blame any asteroid this time.

    Magnetic Field Reversal: At fairly regular intervals the magnetic field reverses. During this period of reversal, the field drops away entirely, dosing our poor planet in cosmic radiation and severely disappointing all those summer beach-goers who painfully discover that SP-45 isn't good enough anymore. The last time this happened was 780,000 years ago (give or take a millenium), and it's just about time for another go. Fortunately, though the magnetic field is already showing signs of an impending reversal, it seems to be a slow processes; in the past century it's only decreased by about 5%.

    Yellowstone National Super-volcano: Sure, Old Faithful might be a magesty of nature, but that old geyser is sitting a top of a pool of magma one mile across and another wide and growing. A recent study of the park has shown that evelations have increased since the first study was conducted when the park first opened, indicating that the subterranean super-volcano is still in the re-filling process since its last eruption some 85,000 years ago (IIRC). Given the ages from the past three eruptions (including the ~85,000 years-ago one) it seems that the Yellowstone super-volcano is just about running on a full tank again. When Yellowstone goes up, it will put Thera and Krakatau to shame. The last time it happened, a foot of ash fell on Kansas. It'll be enough to trigger a collapse in global food production upon which civilization depends. I just hope I'm not living anywhere near America when it blows.

    Mega-Tsunamis: Speaking of things that are bad for America, have I mentioned the Canary Islands? One of the islands (can't recall the specific name off hand) might be just years (or days, for the really impatient doom-sayers) from sending a massive landslide in to the Atlantic Ocean. Such a landslide would trigger a mega-tsunami, a tidal wave of a scale never before witnessed by civilization. Though it won't spell doom for modern society, a mega-tsunami from the Canary Islands would be a disaster for every city on the Western Atlantic seaboard. Although the Canary Island landslide is the most likely to happen soon, it'll seem puny when/if Hawaii's Big Island breaks apart along its Great Crack.

    A world-wide plague: Who knows when the next Black Death will occur? It might be natural or it might be the result of some human intervention. I think massive bio-warfare is more likely to occur the nuclear variety. Some people have said that
  13. Uruk-hai Jedi Youngling

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    HIV AIDS will be the death of many, many people before it is through. It or another disease like it may be the end of us all.
  14. SidiousDragon Force Ghost

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    Quite frankly I'm amazed that people are even suggesting that we'd survive until the Sun dies in 5 BILLION years! Thats the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. Do you even realise what 5 billion years is?

    In fact, anybody who gives Humanity more than 500 years to survive on this planet is deluded. We'll be force to leave pretty soon, if we haven't been wiped out already.

    Heres something to ponder: if the Earth suffered a major catastrophe, and we didn't have any electricity, phone lines, any kind of political infrastructure and had to survive in a desolate winter landscape, do you really think our society would survive? A society where procastrination is rampant, where people are over-specialised, doing jobs of little real use. Do you really think bankers, shop keepers, web designers, scientists, poets, painters, cleaners, politicans, workers, consultants or doctors would be able to revert back to an agricultural society where everyone must fend for himself?
  15. DESERTJEDI Jedi Master

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    I think people in the big cities will be worse off because most of them have no idea how to survive or live like say settlers of the 1800's.

    See I have a garden, I hunt, and I know how to build things really good. So It would be tough but, I feel I could support my family in the unlikeliness of total economic failure.

    I go camping quite a bit so I'm trained for this :p
  16. Master_Ari Jedi Knight

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    The internet going down would be the end of the world for most of. j/k

    It would, like I have said before, be something sudden and major.
  17. Baron_Fel Jedi Master

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    I think I posted before that Nostradamus said that the Earth will be destroyed in the year 3774.

    Well I personally don't believe that. I don't even think we'll survive to 2100 by the way were going. But hey I'm a pessimist :cool: .
  18. CmdrMitthrawnuruodo Force Ghost

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    I'll be one of those lucky few who can ride a horse during total collapse of civilization. While the rest of you have to WALK! Muahahaha!!
  19. Uruk-hai Jedi Youngling

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    You're going to have a hard time riding that horse after DESERTJEDI shoots it and feeds his family with it!

    I thought Nostrodamus only made predictions to a certain date that is already past.

    Humanity may make itself obsolete in the next few hundred years. AI and mechatronics is moving ahead very quickly.
  20. SidiousDragon Force Ghost

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    Yeah, I agree with Uruk-hai. We'll ither be superseded by a boy robot and his teddy bear or by an Austrian robot and his shotgun.

    :p

  21. DESERTJEDI Jedi Master

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    You're going to have a hard time riding that horse after DESERTJEDI shoots it and feeds his family with it!

    Damn straight, and you will be begging for some since all the tofu and whole grain bread will be long gone.

  22. CmdrMitthrawnuruodo Force Ghost

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    You're going to have a hard time riding that horse after DESERTJEDI shoots it and feeds his family with it!

    Damn straight, and you will be begging for some since all the tofu and whole grain bread will be long gone.


    Not unless I shoot you first. 8-}
  23. dark42 Jedi Knight

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    Humans will eventually 'die out' because of dependance on technology. Look at something like The Matrix and think about modern time. We rely more and more upon such unproven technology, and hope that it will do its job. Sooner or later it will eventually fail (or, as in the film, it'll come and take over!).

    This could also be the loss of basic skills in my mind, for eventually people will be having machines do everything for them.
  24. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Apr 3, 2002
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    I'm not worried about the possible failings of technology, just what people do with it.
    There doesn't seem to be alot of faith here on our future.
    The two big whammys are us destroying ourselves or being destroyed from a natural disaster.
    Both can be diminished as we move more people off planet. Not that an huge orbital colony is the end all be all utopia, but with enough folks offworld humanity can go on if the Earth dies.
    Our longevity can be assured if not our immortality.

  25. westford Jedi Master

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    Compared to earlier Homo species, like Homo erectus, Homo habilis etc, we've hardly been around any time at all... And the more technology we develop, the fewer people we'll need. There'll probably be a further evolution with all the mega-intelligent scientist folk coming to the front in the 'survival of the fittest'. Especially if there's a nuclear war or two - only those with the scientific know-how will be able to survive in the new world left behind. But they'll need loads of worker drones to build and maintain their machines.
    The human race won't die out - it'll just change. There'll come a point when we won't need our legs to get around anymore. Breeding will be done in laboratories to ensure the neccessary traits are carried on. Maybe this is all a bit science-fiction-y, but it could happen. That's the scary thing.
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