PT How Does One leave the Jedi Order?

Actually, they should've had him sign a non-compete agreement, if you know what I mean. Sidious would've considered such an agreement a guideline, rather than a rule.

 

Maybe, still I do wish they included the Lost 20. Maybe they could have written it a little differently.

Also, I'm not sure if this been mentioned, but each of the Lost 20 has a bust built after they leave.

 

Yup it was mentioned I think.

 

Was Dooku's head bust in the Archives in any of the clone wars episodes?

 

They probably took it out. You know, because of....circumstances.

 

The Jedi aren't forbidden from leaving. It's just a rare occurrence which is why only twenty had left, since they are so dedicated to the Jedi way of life that to leave it behind is almost unheard of.

 

In the EU the Lost Twenty were all Masters, as I recall - doesn't include Knights (and Padawans).

 

They leave through the exit.

 

How does one leave the Jedi order?

Like this.

 

In all seriousness I guess very few Jedi would leave. Apart from their indoctrination from a very young age Jedi have no resources whatsoever. Its interesting that Dooku was a Count by birth and had resources to fall back on. What does the average Jedi own? nothing. Quite possibly they have to even turn in their lightsabers ( which if its true crystals are found only on Ilum and the Sith have red lightsabers because their crystals are synthesised would explain why the Count has a red lightsaber)
As such they would be out on their own, with no friends to speak of and no money.

 

In Legacy of the Jedi, Padawan candidate Lorian Nod (Dooku's old classmate) is given a job in the Agricultural Corps even after being expelled from the Order proper for falsely accusing Dooku of stealing a Holocron.

He leaves the job and becomes a pirate.

 

That raises an interesting point. The Jedi may well be indoctrinated from birth but (EU) its clear they want to be Jedi and Agricultural corps etc is a failure. Surely a fair few disenchanted failures would decide the do not want to be farmers and leave.

 

The AgriCorps includes a few full Jedi and Masters with a talent for that sort of thing (possibly also to oversee the failures).

 

Do you really think Yoda goes "okay, see ya kid" and pushes him out the front door naked, with no money, no plan, nothing? You don't think they do anything to help them get started? I mean, other than giving them galaxy class education and training, with knowledge and skills in very employable areas, and the ultimate trump card, the ability to feel and use the Force.

I really don't think Jedi struggle terribly to survive when they leave the Order, certainly no more than your average Joe Skywalker. (no relation)

 

I don't think the Jedi give someone who wants to leave anything. I imagine they would keep a vague eye on them to make sure they did not become dark jedi or abuse their powers. Really doubt they would give them a payoff and a place to stay, makes it easier for someone to leave and if the Agricultural corps is true then, well anyone who did not fancy farming for a living and were disappointed would definitely go for it.

 

In some ways the Jedi Order makes it impossible to leave. They come in as three year olds (or the equivalent) for the most part and then know almost nothing but what is inside the Temple walls until they are sixteen and are assigned to a Knight or Master. Ahsoka at last as a fourteen year old was naive in many respects in the ways of the galaxy but then again Anakin spent nine or so years outside of the Jedi Order so he is fairly wise to the ways of the galaxy. I guess that they might be able to get jobs in the private sector as bodyguards/glorified babysitters, a security consultant or maybe a pilot.

However I imagine that if a Jedi wanted to leave they speak to the Council and if a solution can't be reached they leave the Order. I believe that they said that Dooku left the Order over the fact that the Jedi supported the Senate even though it was corrupt and that the Jedi were ignoring the growing Dark Side. I do wonder if either the timeline is going to be changed since I thought that Dooku left the Order shortly after the events on Naboo but the Lost Missions implied that Dooku was helping Sidious BEFORE the Invasion of Naboo.

The only Canon split off of the Jedi Order that I am aware of was the Sith which broke off about two thousand years before TPM.

 

To the leave the Jedi Order can be done in myriad of ways: walking away, falling to the Dark Side, breaking the tenets of the order such as having a family (though this can be pardoned in rare cases), and joining a faction that is against the Republic, such as the Separatists.

 

One thing that have bugged me for some time is this;
If a Jedi wants to leave and the reason is that he/she wants to do something that normal Jedi are forbidden to do.
Say that a Jedi wants to leave because they have fallen in love and wants to get married and have kids.
Jedi are not allowed to do those things and the reason, as I understand it, is that having a husband/wife or children means a greater risk of falling to the Dark Side.
But would the Jedi Order allow a member to leave for that reason? If yes, aren't they worried that he/she would be at risk of falling to the Dark Side?
Ex-Jedi don't loose their powers when they leave so the risk of falling should still be present.
If the Jedi Order are fine with allowing Ex-Jedi to marry and have kids then the ban for active Jedi to do those things becomes a bit odd. In other words, if the risk of falling is negligible for Ex-Jedi, why is the risk much greater for active Jedi?

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Well, what if an active Jedi gets married? What is the Order going to do to stop them? Kill them? No, at most just expel them (perhaps not even that), allowing them to leave with their spouse, which is the same result as a Jedi simply leaving on their own accord. (The PT makes it pretty clear that Anakin would probably be expelled if his relationship with Padme were discovered)

I'm sure they are at least somewhat worried about ex-Jedi falling to the dark side, but I don't think they're willing to imprison or kill an innocent person just to prevent the possibility.

The risk isn't negligible for an ex-Jedi, it just doesn't justify tyranny.

 

The Jedi would no longer be an active member of the Jedi Order. Ergo, they would be free to live normal lives. The Order can't stop them from having families, but they would keep an eye on their former brethren to make sure that they don't slip.

Obi-wan did say that he would be kicked out for his relationship with Padme, but then, Obi-wan didn't say anything even after figuring it out. That's why he went to Padme to talk to Anakin, before leaving for Utapau. He just didn't realize how serious the relationship was until he saw that she was pregnant.

 

An ex-Jedi who married would probably not be in a position for someone to threaten the family for concessions, etc. You don't see many hostages taken attempting to force a farmer or a school teacher to "not arrest someone" or negotiate in such a way that A wins out over B.

In short, EX-Jedi and their families are not generally good targets.

 

If the latter is true, it only makes me suspect that the Jedi were truly controlling when it comes to not only their members, but their ex-members.

 

I agree. That is what I meant in an earlier post that the Jedi probably don't see many leave the Order because Jedi are institutionalized to a degree.

 

The only issue would be an Anakin Skywalker/Shmi Skywalker type of situation or Anakin and Padme situation. Where something happens that has nothing to do with gangsters and slave traders and more to do with random chance moments of death. Or natural causes. Then the former Jedi would be tempted by the dark side.

Given what happened with Dooku, they weren't that vigilant. He went off the grid for nine years, but the Council didn't seem too fused about it. During that time, he wound up becoming a Sith Lord and plotted to take down his former friends. That kind of situation would warrant close attention being paid.