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PT How does Padme love Anakin? (Did she have too much whine?)

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Garrett Atkins, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Are you supposed to be crying in the faces? Why?
     
  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Speculation like that doesn't do anything for me either.[face_thinking]

    Using your logic: "it's what is in the film that counts.";)
     
  3. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, as in regards to MAJOR plot developments and character arcs the audience would rather witness than be expected to just accept as something that 'happened' before this point of the story. (I hope that makes sense lol)
     
  4. Anakin_Darth

    Anakin_Darth Jedi Knight star 2

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    Don't worry about this [Removed] he's just echoing the idiotic RLM "review". It was stupid then. It's even dumber now. Arguing it just brings you down to their level, considering they're not even the OP's thoughts, but someone else's, if you can even label them as thoughts. [face_laugh][face_laugh][face_laugh]
    Move along......move along....
     
  5. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's a bit strong chief! All though i did agree with the RLM review, this is entirely my own point of view. I am capable of them you know (sigh) Seems to me your so anti RLM it clouds your judgement.
     
  6. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Removed.
     
  7. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This ends now.
     
  8. Ani501st

    Ani501st Jedi Padawan star 3

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    I would first say that love is not something you can explain

    Here's my thoughts on the +/- game :
    + Good Looks, even though I'm a guy I'll give him that
    + Finds loophole about love in the Jedi Order
    + Carries her bags on Naboo
    + Listens to her talk about herself and the Queen
    + Compliment at the beginning of the movie ( I wouldn't say awkward just compliment said in a certain way )
    + Talks about how he is frustrated with Obi-Wan and the Council ( show that he doesn't hide his feelings in front of her )
    - Loses temper ( nobody is perfect )
    - Murders men, women, and children ( they killed his mother, revenge is not really something that a lot of people control, unfortunately )
    + Brings Shmi's corpse home ( it shows that he has a heart because he wants to give her a proper funeral, it was his mother ! )
    + --------------------------- Crying ( shows his humanity )
    + Skeleton Hand ( I would say creepy but cool )
    So only 2 - against 9 +.
     
  9. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    For falling for a guy after hearing words like this come out of his mouth

     
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  10. DarthRelaxus

    DarthRelaxus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think Anakin had far more whine. :p
     
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  11. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I think you had a little too much wine :p
     
  12. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Before this thread gets locked, I just want to take a moment to say that there is a legitimate question here buried under cheap PT-bashing jokes: while I'm pretty sure Anakin's romantic dialogue is intended to be forced (an already-somewhat-awkward nineteen-year-old raised by monks isn't exactly going to be Mr. Smooth Talker), it never really did make sense to me why Padme still went for it.
     
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  13. MRCynical

    MRCynical Jedi Knight star 1

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    He's a slave-turned-monk from a backwater planet trying (and failing) to sound sophisticated to impress the older aristocrat girl he likes. Plus remember that the editing of that video is backwards compared to the actual movie - she was already falling for him before he came out with that.
     
  14. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    I think she had a little Anakin herself after that bit. Ba-dum-dum-ching!
     
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    This.

    Anakin had no experience whatsoever with women. It would have been weird if he had been suave and not made a complete ass of himself.
     
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  16. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    Padme should have just told Anakin to just stop talking, he's much more attractive that way.

    Anakin should have just taken off his shirt and started flexing instead of using words.

    PT romance fixed.
     
  17. Darth Dominikkus

    Darth Dominikkus Jedi Knight star 3

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    I just think that love got the best of her, you know? Her emotions outweighed her logic and it didn't help her out at all.
     
  18. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    ehhh, I think that scene is a result of a poor writer trying to make a scene about awkward young love. So what we ended up getting was not an awkward scene about young love. But just a bad scene in general.

    The romance scenes Lucas tried to write in the PT I would say many would agree are the worst dialogue scenes within the entire six movies.
     
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  19. Darth Eddie

    Darth Eddie Jedi Master star 4

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    The love scenes in attack of the clones were inspired by french noir romance films of the 30's and 40's. After sitting through a couple of those, I can tell you Star Wars' take on the style is infinitely more entertaining. I also felt sour about AotC's romance until I considered this, and I've flipped 180 degrees. Cheesy as they are, there's a lot of powerful truth spoken in the lines of dialog.
     
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  20. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Paul F. McDonald believes their romance was based upon the concept of "courtly love".
     
  21. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I can buy that, actually, though I don't know how well it worked in practice.
     
  22. VanishingReality

    VanishingReality Jedi Knight star 3

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    Am I the only one who thinks it was written to be intentionally scary/disturbing and not romantic? I mean the dialogue is kind of the give away.

    It's kind of intimidating and Sith-ish. He might as well say something like, "Your feelings have betrayed you. There is no escape..This will be a date long remembered. "
     
  23. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    ...Really?

    eye roll

    Seriously, though, I don't find this theory as convincing. The degree of Anakin's attachment was probably intended to be slightly unhealthy, but the whole relationship? Doesn't really fit.
     
  24. VanishingReality

    VanishingReality Jedi Knight star 3

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    lol I do ship them, but I seriously do find that speech creepy and foreshadowing. Haunted, Tormenting, Can't Breathe, etc.
    I didn't say it was the whole relationship just that speech.

    I should also add that I don't think the foreshadowing is a bad thing either.
     
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  25. Carbon1985

    Carbon1985 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Why does anyone fall for anybody? As cheesy as the love story is in AOTC, it isn't a stretch that Padme was attracted to Anakin, and that is all it could have been about. Some girls like the bad boy, some girls like the nice guy, some girls like a guy they can control, etc.
     
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