ST How Luke lost light saber got to Maz Kanata?

How do we know if Han knew who Rey was or wasn't? Maybe he brought her there because he knew what was going on or what could/would happen? Not everything is or has to be explained. Would I like it? Yes, then again I'd be ok with a 5 hour long SW movie. Most people wouldn't. Anyhow it seems you don't really care for the direction SW is headed, and for that I am sorry. It's truly a great time to be a SW fan!

 

Or ... Lor San Tekka knows the Solos and just happens to have the map and just happens to be on Jakku. BB8 just happens to be on Jakku and bumps into Rey while escaping with the map. The Falcon just happens to be on Jakku, Han and Chewie just happen to be in the neighborhood when Rey and Finn escape. Han just happens to think Takodana and seeing Maz is the best thing to do. Maz just happens to have the Anakin / Luke lightsaber.

This is our story. It is the convergence of what is apparently unlikely coincidences. The unlikelihood of coincidences are in themselves part of the story. It is all part of some yet unknown backstory, and the Force calling to Rey. "it is the Force, it's calling to you ... " Though some do not like invoking "it's the Force" into everything, it is central to TFA. Yes all these coincidences seem unlikely ... but they are not simply coincidences.

 

Precisely. To me, aside from the fact that there's clearly a lot of hidden stuff going on in the background of the plot that has yet to be revealed, it was heavily implied that there was some greater will guiding the events that took place. It actually reminds me of J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, when Gandalf is suggesting to Frodo that it was no accident that Bilbo happened to find the Ring, that there was another external force (in that case, basically God) at work.

 

From the ESB screenplay:

LUKE Ben. Leia!

There is an ominous cracking sound from the base of the
weather vane and a piece breaks off, falling into the clouds far below.

 

Two things bug me about this - but whatever I will move on.

Firstly is the general "ah whatever - will of the force / act of god / wait for the next movie - how about this" pass that this gets, whereas anything that didn't quite seam believable that Lucas did it's "OMG do you actually watch your own movies --- ?"

Secondly and one that has me scratching my head most, is why TFA seams to have made every effort to ignore ROTJ. If we are talking about significance, Luke's ROTJ sabre is the one that helped bring down the Empire, the one that represented his 'coming of age' as a true Jedi. In a way the loss of what he was using in ESB was a good thing. It turns out his father was Vader, this was not after all the untainted weapon of a noble warrior, ultimately it was made as disposable as his hand in a nasty act of almost filicide. It's brutal tossing aside represents the very horrific way Obi-Wans romantic story suddenly becomes a nightmare of deceit and failure.

That original opening to me - thank god it was cut - just seamed another way to short circuit everything to avoid all the other films JJ was not so kean on.
Straight from ESB to TFA do not pass ROTJ.

 

Ohhh I hate it when people pass off that criticism.

 

yes the script says pieces of the vane break off but it seems the effects guys had something else in mind. no vane debris would look like that or be spinning that way.

 

The reason they wanted the Bespin saber and not the Endor saber is probably two-fold (and not JJ dissing ROTJ). Firstly, Luke may well still have the Endor saber. And secondly, the Bespin saber is used by both Luke and Anakin, giving it more of a sense of legacy given how Vader's shadow is cast over the story.

 

The only thing that I am convinced will definitely happen in Ep 8 is that Kylo Ren will get the "Vader" sabre

 

omg. the red vader saber disintegrated. the blue saber is vader's saber.

 

Go away, George!

 

Seriously, what else should it be?

You are aware that there is a noticable time difference between Luke loosing his hand and lightsaber and Luke's decision to make his "leap of faith".

Were hand and lightsaber suspended in mid-air until Luke arrived?

By that time hand and lightsaber had already flown elsewhere.

 

if those vents all empty at the bottom it makes perfect sense.

 

There is nothing next to Luke when he stops sliding and before the chute opens and he falls and grabs the protrusion.

 

if those vents all empty at the bottom it makes perfect sense.

 

In my headcanon, it was Luke's commlink that fell. That's why the only way he could call for help was via telepathy.

 

A simple one-liner would not make the movie 5 hours.

Poor screen-writing and development of the script is just that.

 

Sure, but that does not change the fact that they had better come up with something to explain it's re-appearance properly.

 

In a fictional world already overflowing with convenient coincidences, I don't find it too much of a stretch to believe that a force-sensitive pirate could find a way to get her hands on a historically valuable artifact. If they elaborate on it eventually, great. If not, no big deal. The "how" probably isn't really relevant to larger story.

 

Maz got it off of the Cloud City Craigslist. Ugnaughts knew it was worth something, but seeing one of them running around with a lightsaber during Imperial occupation would have meant certain death for all of them. Maz bought it, no questions asked, and figured that the rightful owner would eventually come around or Antiques Roadshow would come to Takodana and she could find someone interested in buying it from her then.

 

To put things a bit into perspective. In the center of Cloud City is the big shaft, its main purpose is to channel air with the rare, anti-gravitational Tibanna gas into the corresponding processing facilities.

One could argue that impurities are automatically detected and "spit out", that would include the broken control weather vane window, Luke itself and his hand with the lightsaber.

Luke ended up at the bottom outside the main body of Cloud City. Even if the lightsaber got sucked out, too, it's still not certain whether Bespin is indeed a gas planet with no solid core. The old Marvel Comics had a planet below on which the Ugnaughts lived (and illustrated how debris from above was hitting a party below on the planet's surface).

 

For me there is enough evidence that the falling object we saw is not the hand and lightsaber that we neither can confirm or deny the lightsaber fell out of Cloud City. We do not know if the portal that opened to dump Luke out is weight sensitive, optical sensitive or sonically sensitive. We do not know if anything can get stuck in the chutes. The chutes obviously curve, so Luke is gently slowed down and stops. So the weight of an object as well as other things affecting resistance factors in.

So, there is as good a chance the lightsaber did not fall to Bespin. I am sure during the ESB no one was thinking much about this. The whole point in the OT was Luke constructing a new saber on his own which became a point of progress for ROTJ (the deleted scene of Luke putting finishing touches on the new lightsaber on Tatooine before C3PO and R2 go to Jabba's palace underlay this point).

The storytellers have an abundant amount of freedom to contrive a discovery of the blue saber on Cloud City without getting into the debate about the how it possibly could be located on Bespin.

 

Then people would have complained about a one liner and being done with it, and you know that as well as I do. People complain to complain. Let you or me make SW movie the way WE *think* it should be and I bet a lot of people will hate/complain about it. No matter what they do, how they do it or when it comes up in the movie, someone will always find something to cry about. I hate to say it but that's just society today in general. Again don't act as if a one and done one liner would have really made it any better, with the things I have seen people here get upset about I know they would have cried about that as well.