how much of vader was robot?

i mean, did the cybernetics function in any other way than breathing for him? they might have influenced him in making key descisions. i dunno. what do you think. if they controlled him, this could change the way we see Vader forever...

 

Vader is a head and a torso and some stumps. That's about it. The rest is robotic. You build...!!! Construx!!!

 

The cybernetics are there so that Vader can fucntion. They don't affect his higher brain functions in any way.

 

Vader had no legs below the knees and no arms below the elbows.

He also had almost no face and his chest cavity was badly damaged.

 

Isn't this entire discussion a ROTS spoiler?

Not to be picky

 

may 19

 

*wanders in-gets spoiled-leaves*

 

This is def more Revenge talk the anything.

 

This is not a spoiler. i and i can only guess that most serious fans, have know about him falling in a lava pit and loosing most of his body after a duel with Obi-Wan, since the eighties.

 

Hmm, Lucas alluded in an interview some years back that Anakin's legs were robotic, and we know his one arm is. The other arm may or may not be in intact, though I think it likely is. And we know, of course, that at some serious damage had to be done to the torso and abdominal area because of Vader's inability to breathe on his own (in the EU, SOTE mentions that alot of his alveoli are completely destroyed or burned). If you freeze the DVD and take a good look, you'll see a metal brace against his upper vertebrae, so without it he's likely be paralyzed throughout most of his body from severe spinal injuries. And don't forget those wicked scars on his head.

These two pics actually show along the lines of what I think he looks like underneath:

Image One

Image Two


And, no, this isn't spoiler information. I haven't let myself learn that much about the film. This is acutally stuff I've extrapolated over the years from different OT sources.

 

There some GG artist impressions posted in the Ep.III forum that looked quite similar to that. Anakin really is just a head and torso and four stumps. Good find.

 

Darthnidan,

You are wrong. I have avoided spoiler threads purposely, and had not heard what happens until you just wrote it in what is suppose to be a Non Spoiler thread. Thanks.

 

Arms, legs and pelvis are all robotic. Also, some innards are circuitry too.

 

Okay, so he's 3/4 machinary. To me, that says right arm and lower body roughly from the hips down. On top of that, you've got the respirator, possibly a heart pump, and something to brace the ribs and spine. There's probably also some cerebral/spinal interface that allows nerve messages to get to the prosthetics/ implants. Quick question that I haven't been able to figure out: how does he eat?

 

yes, all lava-related info in this thread was written in the eighties.


that does not mean that everybody shouldn't be very careful what info they post

 

"He's more machine now than man."

 

Quick question that I haven't been able to figure out: how does he eat?

Better question: Does he have to? With so much organ and tissue loss, it's possible he only needs the force to sustain himself.

 

11.38% machine.

 

"How does he eat?"

Has anyone heard the Eddie Izzard bit about the Death Star cafeteria?

 

Dude Sidious ****ed him up badly.... i didnt know he didnt have any legs i thoght he just had the 3/4 arm from geno....

 

Ok, I know that i'm gonna get some flak over this, but there is no spoiler material here.

If Vader is more machine now than man, how much of a Jedi's body can be destroyed without affecting how powerful he/she is in the Force? If you buy into the Midichlorian crap, then Vader's abilities would have been greatly diminished when he became a cyborg. He lost most of his body, so he lost most of his blood vessel area, which means fewer midichlorians.

If you still believe that the Force is generated from brainwaves, heart, or whatever inside a Jedi's body, then Vader would still have been severely handicapped in the Force when he became a cyborg.

...unless

...the Force is generated within the soul, which would not be affected by the loss of physical body parts.



"Now, let the hatred flow through you! I am unarmed. Go ahead, strike me down and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!"

 

This could be helpful.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html

 

He lost most of his body, so he lost most of his blood vessel area, which means fewer midichlorians.

Actually, I think the number of midichlorians is the concentration, not the total number.

 

Darthnidan,

You are wrong. I have avoided spoiler threads purposely, and had not heard what happens until you just wrote it in what is suppose to be a Non Spoiler thread. Thanks.

Although it did have to do with Revenge of the Sith, it was stated by Lucas after A New Hope came out and was mentioned in the Return of the Jedi novelization.

It should not be considered a spoiler.

 

Sorry, it was the first I had heard of it. :/