main
side
curve
  1. Welcome to the new boards! Details here!

"How Old Are All of the Star Wars Characters Now, v2.0?"

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jang-Anakin_Fett, Aug 28, 2003.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Chimpo_the_Sith

    Chimpo_the_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Mar 15, 2003
    Jaina and Jacen should be 19 as of the FH trilogy.

    Aren't they 20 in FH.
    And I think that Mara is the same age or a 1 year younger than Luke. I can't remember but I think there was said in Thrawn's Trilogy that she is younger than Luke.
     
  2. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Apr 7, 2001
    chimpo_the_sith:
    Aren't they 20 in FH.

    Well, they were 16 in VP. I think about a year was supposed to pass between each hard cover, (though I think it has actually been less than a year in some cases), so they would have been 17 in BP, 18 in SbS, and 19 in DW. So they are approaching their 20th birthday in the FH trilogy or have just recently reached it.

    And I think that Mara is the same age or a 1 year younger than Luke. I can't remember but I think there was said in Thrawn's Trilogy that she is younger than Luke.

    As I said, I was present when Timothy Zahn said Luke and Mara were the same age. Of course, that doesn't mean they were born on the same day. One of them is probably a few months older than the other. However, both of them are listed as 28 in the Heir to the Empire Sourcebook.
     
  3. Tanakin_Skywalker

    Tanakin_Skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Jul 22, 2003
    I've also already stated that Jacen said he wasn't even 18 in Destiny's Way. If you don't beleive me, then just look in the book.
     
  4. Tanakin_Skywalker

    Tanakin_Skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Wait I just discovered some news. There was an interveiw with Michael Stackpole and Timothy Zhan where both stated that Mara is in fact two years old than Luke and Leia. There's a link to the interveiw in the Mara Jade Skywalker Fan Club Thread.
     
  5. Chimpo_the_Sith

    Chimpo_the_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Mar 15, 2003
    Tanakin_Skywalker Yes everything would be Ok if there wasn't that Mara would have been 16 in ANH. So that would mean that she was 2 years younger. That was a very weird interview. TZ said that Mara was the same age as Luke. Then MS said that she was 2 years older. And at the end TZ says that she would have been 16 in ANH. I don't get it.
     
  6. Tanakin_Skywalker

    Tanakin_Skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Yes, but end the end Thrawn said: "well it would make sense for Mara to be two years older."
     
  7. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Apr 7, 2001
    Tanakin Skywalker:
    Yes, but end the end Thrawn said: "well it would make sense for Mara to be two years older."

    That still doesn't explain why Luke and Mara are both listed as 28 in the Heir to the Empire sourcebook. AND, when I met Timothy Zahn, he distinctly said that Mara was the same age as Luke. Maybe Stackpole's comments surprised and flustered him a bit in the interview. Though why they should, I wouldn't know. Timothy Zahn is Mara's creator after all. He should know how old she is no matter what Stackpole says!

    Edit: I just read that interview in the Mara Jade Fan Club, and I've come to the conclusion that Timothy Zahn may have misunderstood Stackpole. He may have thought Stackpole originally said that Mara was two years younger than Luke and then when Stackpole said that oh, he thinks she was two years older, actually, Zahn may have thought he meant two years older than 16. That would again put Luke and Mara at 18 as of ANH.

    I still say that the creator of Mara should know how old she is, and he definitely said she was the same age as Luke when I saw him. He again seemed to say that in the interview before Stackpole confused him.
     
  8. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    As I said, I was present when Timothy Zahn said Luke and Mara were the same age. Of course, that doesn't mean they were born on the same day. One of them is probably a few months older than the other. However, both of them are listed as 28 in the Heir to the Empire Sourcebook.


    Who cares what the lame brain says? He says all kinds of stupid things. That's his opinion. (If what GL says on his own DVD of his own creation is an "opinion" then what some EU aothor says at a comic book show is really just nothing at all.I would put a sarcasm quote thing in here, but that would be redundant.)

    I doubt Matra was out beating Black Sun baddies to death at age 9. It is logical to have her be older. There's no way the real Palpatine of film would entrust a brainless -pre-teenager with a cup of coffee, much less something important. From Darth Maul to Mara. Talk about downsizing, and lowered expectations. Must have gone totally daft in his age. No wonder the Empire tanked.
     
  9. JoruusCbaoth

    JoruusCbaoth Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Apr 14, 2003
    "Who cares what the lame brain says?"

    He did create the frikkin' character, after all. I'd rather not turn this into another round of "Zahn sucks!" "no he doesn't!" anyway either.

    But I hope it at least falls within your logic to have a character's creator know what their backstory is.
     
  10. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    But I hope it at least falls within your logic to have a character's creator know what their backstory is.

    The backstory that keeps changing upon his whim? I don't think so. Let's see how much more revisionist Mara's "backstory" is in the next book he writes where he tosses continuity out the window to make his queen look look like a saint.

    Like the way she went from being a blood thirsty murderer so proud of her power and prestige, and Imperial Governors cowering at her very name, to a reluctant "courier" that was brainwashed, and oh so loyal, and a victim of it all, who was really doing the galaxy a favor because they were the evil ones, not the Sithlord that slayed billions that she "loved and served". Yeah, he's reliable in backstories alright.

    She's definitely older. She could not have done half of what she did at 14. no general worth their salt would be cowed or take orders from some brat. This isn't X-men.


    Zahn happens to be the best author ever to write a SW book.

    I disagree, I find his writing very dull. he only writes his characters as being smart, real SW characters as being lunkheads.

    There are far less advanced authors, that should not even be thinking of writing in the SW universe (Kevin J Anderson, Vonda N McIntyre, Barbara Hambly.......)

    You forgot Kathy I write SW harlequinn romance novels Tyers.

    Need I go on?

    No.

    Stop knocking Zahn!

    No.
     
  11. HandOfThrawn01

    HandOfThrawn01 Jedi Youngling

    Registered:
    Jul 17, 2003
    Zahn happens to be the best author ever to write a SW book.

    There are far less advanced authors, that should not even be thinking of writing in the SW universe (Kevin J Anderson, Vonda N McIntyre, Barbara Hambly.......)

    Need I go on?

    Stop knocking Zahn!


    EDIT- Agreed, Kathy Tyres is not up to Timothy Zahn's level either. lol
     
  12. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    Maybe they can have a new SW Harlequinn Romance section, and then the NJO and the above mentioned can go under that, and also the HST, which all are too mushy. Truce at Bakura was one long love letter to Mark Hamill, with his blue eyes being mentioned every third paragraph. :D
     
  13. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

    Registered:
    Apr 25, 2003
    Garm Bel Iblis is certainly older than Pellaeon, as in the DFR, it was stated that when Han and Lando paid him a visit, he was an old man.

    Probably at least 10yrs+ to Gilad.
     
  14. JoruusCbaoth

    JoruusCbaoth Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Apr 14, 2003
    "The backstory that keeps changing upon his whim? I don't think so. Let's see how much more revisionist Mara's "backstory" is in the next book he writes where he tosses continuity out the window to make his queen look look like a saint. "

    At what point did Zahn ever change from "Mara is the same age as Luke" to "Mara is 2 years older"?
     
  15. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    LFL decided it, and if they want to then they want to.
     
  16. no_krakana

    no_krakana Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Pardon my stupidity but what does LFL stand for?
     
  17. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    LucasFilmLimited. The mammoth corp, in which the right hand, seldom, if ever, knows what the left hand is doing.

    Sourcebooks aren't really canon. I have my old WEG ones, and they clearly state that Bail organa, and Mon Mothma started the Rebellion. Even had little "scenes" with dialogue.
    Then we got the ill-conceived HST, which negated the WEG sourcebooks, but GL is still following it for EPIII.

    Sourcebooks should be taken with a grain of salt. Unless everyone agrees that Mara looks like a homeless woman, like that awful picture of her, and Jaina and Jacen look like fat Hummels. or Campbell's Soup Kids from the 40's.
    [link=http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/ogees/iteml/1250]Jacen in Jaina in the soucebook[/link]

    [link=http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/5410/jaina.html]See?[/link]
     
  18. Thyrsan4Blood

    Thyrsan4Blood Jedi Youngling star 3

    Registered:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Jacen has to be older than 18, because if he's not then that means that less than 2 years has passed between VP and DW, which I know cannot be true. VP explicitly states that the twins are 16. And if DW is only 2 years after VP, which would mean that the current year is 27 ABY in DW. That would mean that over the course of these 5 post-DW books take up 3 years in the NJO continuity.

    I want to know what page Jacen says he's not 18. If he does say it, then WJW made a big mistake.

    We are finishing year 28 (ABY), approaching 29 in the NJO continuity. Jacen was born 9 ABY, which would make him at least 19, maybe even 20 as of TFP.
     
  19. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

    Registered:
    Nov 8, 2001
    Sourcebooks aren't really canon.

    Except that they are. :)
     
  20. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

    Registered:
    Jul 9, 1999
    Yup, everything's canon, except Infinities.
     
  21. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Oct 25, 2000
    I guess then Jaina's stupid Farrah hair is canon.
     
  22. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

    Registered:
    Nov 8, 2001
    Hey, for all we know MISS PIGGY is canon... ;)
     
  23. YodaKenobi

    YodaKenobi VIP star 6 VIP

    Registered:
    May 27, 2003
    Jaina was 19 in SBS and 18 in DJ, somehow. Since Jacen and she are twins, I would say they are both over 18...About a year is suppose to pass between each hardcover so when TUF comes out, they will be at least 20
     
  24. Tanakin_Skywalker

    Tanakin_Skywalker Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Jul 22, 2003
    T4B: Look at the end of the chapter where Vergere is about to explain Zomna Sekot.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.