How powerful are Imperial star destroyers?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Peacekeeper, Feb 28, 2001.

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  1. Peacekeeper Jedi Knight

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    After reading VF again...i am wondering..how powerful are the imperial star destroyers..coz in the last scene of VF the NR has about 150 top of the line and powerful ships but the president still inisted that they were outgunned by 3 imperial star destroyers..just how powerful are the imp stars?And is there any thing in the NR fleet that can take an imp star out
  2. GrandAdmiralPelleaon Force Ghost

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    a mon calamari cruiser probably could but I don't know how powerfull they really are but they are certainly very powerful and very cool... :D
  3. Peacekeeper Jedi Knight

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    then the NR should use imp stars for their counter offensive...but as we all know in VP
    an imp star totaly destroyed but that was when they didn't know the vong...
  4. Jarik Jedi Master

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    A Mon Calamari Cruiser can definitely take out an Imperial Star Destroyer. It has many more guns and the same shield strenghth. However, an ISD carries 3 more fighter suqadrons.
  5. Cigam Retah Force Ghost

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    If I remember my X-Wing Flight Sims days, they always lamented that Mon Cals had less guns, better shields, with numerous redundancies.

    A Mon Cal Cruiser is hard pressed to beat a fully equpied Imperial Star Destroyer, but two would make short work of the Arrowhead-Shaped Behemoth.
  6. yoddles Jedi Knight

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    the mon calamari star cruisers are only pleasure cruisers refitted for combat they really are pathetic in battle but the rebellion knew they were better than nothing so it took them, also a big part of their fleets were blockade runners and medical frigates not the best starfleet but effective enough if crewed with intelligent people who know what they are doing, x-wings were nice fighters but a well trained tie pilot could take them out,y-wings and b-wings were slow and easy too outmanuvor so they were destroyed by better ties,and a-wings were fast but had little shielding and poor armour so if hit they were dead meat,
    E-wings were pretty good but a tie defender could take them out,

    basically the rebel fleet was made up of old out of date star ships and refitted escort frigates and mon cal pleasure ships,and weak x a b y and e wings, so the rebels were pathetic to the empire but they still were good,

    anyways acording to what i have read a imperial star destroyer is powerfull enough to subugate an entire planet and powerfull enough to take on entire rebel fleets and win
    which may be true if comanded by grand admiral thrawn but comanded by another person they would lose, if you ask me i say the star destroyers should have bigger docking bays so they can carry 150 tie defenders per ship and also 100 imperial lamboda class shuttles and atat's and atsts.
  7. UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master

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    what are you talking about that the mon calamri cruisers are just refitted pleasure ships. if you read the jedi academy books they describe how they were built. the finest ships in the galaxy when it comes to quality and redunacy. and how no two ships are the same and they are machanical works of art.

    also with just as many guns as a star destroyer but smaller and more mobile and better shields. it could easily take out a star destroyer especially consiering the supperior training of the crew and more redudancy.
  8. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    The part about how no two Mon Cal cruisers are the same is crap, IMO. No Navy with half a brain would accept ships that were totally different mechanically on the inside. Means you'd have to train one crew to specifically run one ship; not a good thing. yoddles, the EARLY Mon Cal cruisers (ie, MC80) were converted starliners; the later ones obviously aren't...

    However, the ISD's dagger-shaped design is a much better layout. The big turbolasers have basically unrestricted fields of fire. Not the case on a Mon Cal.
  9. Cigam Retah Force Ghost

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    "No Navy with half a brain would accept ships that were totally different mechanically on the inside."

    What about a Navy without a Fleet? *shrugs*
  10. Matthew Trias Force Ghost

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    No two Mon Cal cruisers have the same HULL design.
  11. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Good point, Cigam. I still don't believe it though. It'd make things overly complicated for both the shipyard workers and the crews on the ships..


    Oh, I see what he meant, Trias. Thanks.
  12. Yavarice Jedi Knight

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    To me Impstars are underated as they seem to drop too quickly like in the xwing series. Kinda like how stormtroopers are supposed to be the empire's top crack troops (and they get into how they were trained on Carida) but still manage to crack their heads on blast doors.
  13. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Of course, the Impstars go quickly. The books are about the Republic winning...
  14. FighterJock Jedi Knight

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    The 'new class' ships for the NR all could take out an ImpStar. 4 180m Warrior class Gunships can take out a single ISD. Even thought they are smaller than an ISD: Majestic class heavy cruiser, or Republic and Nebula class star destroyers can take out ISDs. The large amount of fighters carried by Endurance and Defender class carriers can take them out.

    Yoddles:
    X-wings, E-wings, and B-wings are not out-classed. They are the finest of their genre.
  15. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Um yoddles, you'd have to make the ship two or three times as big as they are now to cram 150 Defenders inside. Those take up LOTS of space..
  16. FighterJock Jedi Knight

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    Did they even make 150 TIE defenders? I always assumed it was around 50 or 60.
  17. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn The Other Saga Moderator

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    IMPSTARs can carry out the order called "Base Delta Zero", which is the slagging of a planet's entire surface.

    Just a note.
  18. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah, never thought of that problem, FighterJock..
  19. annikinstarkiller Force Ghost

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    The ships fighting in VF were planetary militia ships, except for the couple NR corvettes. Noneof the ships were top quality or ships-of-the-line, and they did not have any MC-80s or higher.

    ISDs are very powerful. Being 1.6 km long and armed with hundreds of weapons and starfighters, they can engage entire fleets of smaller ships.

    In reference to the easy death of ISDs in the X-wing series, I request that you remember that Rouge squadron was involved, and that they lost people. It is usually the measure of the captain that reveals the threat; remeber that they were nearly destroyed twice by the Corruptor, (a VSD) in Bacta War.

    ISDs were orignally supposed to be the flagships of sector fleets, but the advent of SSDs, Eclipse-SSDs, etc. led everyone to forget Yoda's dictum, "Size Matters NOT."


  20. Fire_Ice_Death Chosen One

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    Poop heads(can't say the real word ;) ) commanded ISD's most of the time so you have to understand that ISD's could easily be killed....plus those damn shield generators were so friggin' obvious that anyone with half a brain could take one down.
  21. The Tears of Palpatine Jedi Knight

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    Imperial Star Destroyers are frighteningly powerful ships. A single Destroyer can reduce the surface of a planet to smoking ash.

    As for Mon Calamari cruisers, per the canon statements of Admiral Ackbar's First Star captain in RETURN OF THE JEDI, they are inferior to Star Destroyers, with inferior armour and weapons.

    The EU's predilection for exaggerating the prowess of the Republic is nowhere more obvious than in its mistreatment of the Star Destroyer.
  22. FighterJock Jedi Knight

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    The Rebellion/New Republic had the right intel (usually) to stay clear of ImpStars with high-quality commanders. They picked most of their fights in the outer-rim. That was far from the pride and intelligent captains that were probably stationed near the core worlds. THE smartest of the captains either defected to the Alliance, or were killed aboard the Death Stars and Executor.

    Also, fighters able to destroy ships that size isn't far fetched. The Imperials were like pre-WWII navies. They didn't respect air power. A few bombers could destroy battleships despite the fighter's size and armament compared to the battleship's size and armament. Imperials just had too much pride in the big stuff, they allowed the small stuff to escape.
    Same goes for smaller warships. In WWI, torpedo boats were incredibly effective because of their size and speed. They would just get below a battleship's minimum gun degree. The Rebellion used that tactic throughout the entire Civil War.
  23. Jarik Jedi Master

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    If you play the computer game, Star Wars: Rebellion it shows that the Mon Cal has more guns than the ISD and you can beat an ISD with a Mon Cal rather easily.
  24. FighterJock Jedi Knight

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    They just did that to make the game fair.
  25. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    It was a modified mon cal, not your standard mon cals. They exist in the star wars universe but are rare, they were used in rebellion just to balance the gameplay a little bit.
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