Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by darth ladnar, Mar 30, 2014.
I think he should be as powerful, as he needs to be for the story.
I want 30 years from now Luke has decided to follow his father's footsteps and resolve absolutely everything with a Force choke. But for good. It worked on the pig guards, logically, he should be able to rebuild the entire Jedi order whilst Force choking his way to supreme Jedi Mastery.
He only wrote a treatment, an outline for the movies. He didn't make a full-fleshed script out of it because - I don't know? In any case he was perfectly happy to give them away for others to work on. And it is not a fully fledged out story, only a precursor.
In my creative process, things from the outline change all the time. I have new ideas while writing and quite often they collide with old ones, so the old ones have to go.
They hired all these creative persons to bring their own creative inputs on the table. And if they deem something bad in Lucas treatment or have an idea that collides with one of his lesser ones, I doub't they shrug and go all "Ah well, but it is his treatment, can't change anything in it". They'll discuss it with him and possibly overrule him if he doesn't give his okay.
Chris Claremont changed a lot of things from the original stories. For one he "disrespectfully" remade the character of Magneto and directly manipulated the ongoing feud - story - of the X-Men against Magneto. He continued the story that Stan Lee began.
I'd be in favor of his power being "mostly" implied as being as powerful or more powerful than the chosen one. Use good dialog and expression to get the message across. Be subtle about it.
Keep in mind we don't know how powerful the Chosen One was, or rather was to become. He was still young & developing when he was sliced up & put in the life support suit. GL said if he hadn't he would've become more powerful than Palpatine or Yoda. So maybe Luke will be as powerful as Anakin at the time of RotS but it's impossible to compare the two if Anakin had another 20+ years of development without his injuries.
I think he should be more powerful than that, but not in "God mode".
Luke after ROTJ 30 years will be wise and powerful and grand master of the Jedi order. He will bring the Jedi Order back and teach and learn from what the Old Jedi Order did right and what they did wrong. I'm a EU reader and love how Luke has progressed since ROTJ and he is up there with yoda IMO but it did not come easy he did bust his but. I would not say Yoda was all wise himself for a 900 year old force user to get fooled by a 40-50 years old sith well maybe he was a little to old but he sure came close to defeating Palpatine. Luke in VII will be wise like Obi Wan, as powerful as yoda and the potential being son of Anakin, he will kick ass.
He should be the equivalent in power and wisdom as Ben Kenobi was in ANH & Qui-Gon was in TPM. Luke Skywalker will likely fill that kind of role in Ep. 7...we'll see if he has the same fate as Ben & Qui-Gon.
Look at the relationships of these three characters and do the math. I am so looking forward to this.
Most powerful Jedi/Sith of all time.
I think the Goldilocks Theory should be applied.
I think as long as he has Ghost Yoda and Obi-Wan to guide him he will be okay. But since he will probably not have fought any Sith or real opponents I think his skill with a lightsaber may be a little rusty. I don't think he will be going off to protect the galaxy as the Old Jedi Order did. I do however think he would have come in contact with mersonaries and smugglers that would have tried to mess with him.
Powerful enough to ragdoll Palpatine on his best day.
Powerful enough to create planets just from one single cough.
I think he should be as powerful as Yoda at the age of 878, his age in ROTS.
Luke should pretend to be disabled and weak, and when the **** hits the fan, you see his true colors and surprises everyone with his abilities. Yoda trained him, so he would not use the force unwisely, only when he absolutely needed too, would he use the force to destroy evil.
I think it should be a secret as to how strong Luke really is, until he is pushed to his breaking point.
I want to see him using the force like Yoda did in the senate chamber in ROTS. I think the audience's jaw would drop at the sight of him being as good as Yoda in this new trilogy. Besides, he's had 35 years to be the absolute best at the force. I hope they give him the same abilities as they gave Yoda in ROTS or AOTC.
Edit: Gotta star out the whole word.
As powerful as the Chosen One if Anakin had reached his full potential
This... is the only way it can be.
Luke should be what Anakin was supposed to be.
And more powerful then we can possibly imagine.
Luke should float in all of his scenes too.
Powerful enough that he's found Yodas old floaty chair and now levitates in it throughout the entire ST. Everything he wants now comes to him via the Force.
He'll consume the Sith with fireballs from his eyes...& bolts of lightning from his @$$
He won't be as all-powerful as y'all suggest. Just my opinion.
should be, but won't, your right. Luke did not struggle with training as some on here have suggested. He learned at an accelerated rate and did very well. Most jedi take a decade or so to become as powerful as Luke was within a few years. In the eu Luke became the full potential of Anakin Skywalker. Thus more powerful than Yoda, Mace and the chosen one.
Wait, did Luke use a Force choke in ROTJ? Bad Luke! That's a Sith move!
or maybe, work with me here... Luke is so powerful he can use traditional Sithian applications of the Force and not succumb.
Sithian is now a word? For shame.
On the contrary. I think Luke's entrance in ROTJ, dressed in a black robe and using Force chokes, was meant to directly convey a closeness to the Dark Side, having him be on his way to becoming Vader as in his cave vision, which is only reinforced by having seen Anakin the same way in ROTS. Luke sacrificed his training to save his friends, and in turn learned a truth he wasn't ready for. He was much more like his father than he seemed. And that was the real problem with the movie, because after that, we don't see the darkness in Luke again until the very end. They tried to walk the line between putting his soul at peril and letting him remain the hero, and that balance wasn't quite pulled off. I still love the movie, but I think that aspect could have been handled better and made more clear. It does play more directly when you start at TPM and watch all six in a row, but I'm still surprised at how many hardcore fans don't even see what they were going for due to the fact that most of the movie drops the ball with it.
I would expect ST Luke to be "the Yoda", not "the Obi-Wan". GL talked about Luke becoming "the Obi-Wan" during the filming of ANH, before Yoda existed.