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Senate How should the U.S. government be reformed?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Step 1: Admit the whole thing has been an insipid mistake since inception.

    Step 2: [​IMG]

    Step 3: Purge the evangelicals

    Step 4: Prophet!
     
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  2. a star war

    a star war Jedi Knight star 4

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    How can we complete step 4 after step 3?
     
  3. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    Judaism
     
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  4. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    You're Americans. You can achieve anything you want!
     
  5. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I knew Jared and Ivanka would save us!
     
  6. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    She is nothing like her father, according to a new interview she's done. She would never use the White House for personal enrichment.

    But you're right Ghost. A system that produced a Trump presidency can absolutely be reformed. It's still a great system (lol), one of the best in the world (lol), and it can be reformed (lol).
     
  7. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I still think Ivanka should be pronounced "Eye-venk-uh".
    She's American, isn't she?
    Pronouncing it "Ee-vonk-uh" is just doing Trump's bidding.
     
  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    They say Gansevoort as "Gans-vort."

    The main meal is the entree.

    There's no saving this country, Watto.
     
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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Getting this back on topic before it turns into another Ender Rags on 'Murica thread...

    States: Given the size and population of the US, I think certain programs, such as the education system and single-payer health care, should adhere to uniform federal guidelines but be administered by the states. More on single payer in a minute.

    Voting: If there is a way to vote online while verifying one's identity and ensuring that no one votes twice, I would like to see that happen. It seems that the technology is already available through a program like Google Forms and would just need a couple of more security steps. (No, I am not suggesting that we vote using Google Forms, just that a similar program could be developed.) People would need to keep their identities secure and there would need to be a provision in place to ensure that no one steals a log-in from Grandpa who died last year in order to vote twice.

    Even if Election Day is a national holiday and there is early voting everywhere, some people still will not be able to make it. Restaurants, hospitals, etc. do not observe national holidays and not everyone has transportation to a voting place.

    Universal health care would cover:

    --a full physical with a frequency determined by age, every year for kids and older people and maybe every 2-3 years for younger and middle-aged adults

    --a visit to a primary care physician for routine illnesses

    --specialist care and surgery for life-threatening illnesses

    --emergency care and hospitalization

    People could buy supplemental insurance to cover anything else they might want; this would avoid massive unemployment caused by shutting down all the insurance companies at once.
     
  10. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 6

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    Ceremonial Presidential system.

    Means you can keep President Trump, but he has zero political power. Create a Prime Minister, as head of government, and govern like grown ups.
     
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  11. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    What if instead we created a hyper-empathetic superhuman to run the government for us?
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You but I would want a president more like the German one. Some power but largely ceremonial.

    The Germans have taken federalism and improved it.

    Their President can still veto legislation and has to sign it into law. He can also issue pardons. But he/she is also supposed to be more above the fray so to speak.

    We REALLY need that here.
     
  13. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    His Excellency Barack Obama is already term limited.
     
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  14. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He will fly in and save us soon.
     
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  15. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Then divide the powers of the Presidency. The party that wins the popular vote gets the actual mandate to govern. The party that wins the Electoral College wins the Presidency.
     
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  16. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I like your idea. We would have the President be the Head of State while the Prime Minister heads government in Congress. But you could certainly utilize the EC to elect the President. The German President is elected by their own bundes(states) indirectly so our EC would be similar.
     
  17. Jedi_Jade-Skywalker

    Jedi_Jade-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Step 1: Invent a time machine.

    Step 2: Negotiate a solution to the whole 'no taxation w/o representation' thing

    Step 3: Exist as part of the British Empire

    Step 4: Become an independent country that's part of the Commonwealth of Nations

    Basically, I'd trade everything for a world were slavery ended sooner, and where narcissism isn't a celebrated American trait.
     
  18. Rew

    Rew Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [​IMG]
     
  19. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    The Thirteen Colonies fighting for independence was all but inevitable whatever the reasoning. In 1776 the typical soon-to-be American was wealthier and healthier (and taller) than the typical person on that dreary little island across the Atlantic, and the potential growth for the economy and population was already enormous. Not to mention the potential for geographic expansion given the relative weakness of France and Spain in North America. I am also skeptical that slavery would have ended much sooner, as the UK also needed Southern cotton for their industry until they replaced it during the Civil War with Indian and Egyptian cotton also grown under an oppressive system.
     
  20. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Does anyone have any more reform ideas?

    I can't believe a unified Republican government might lead us into government shutdown and debt default, but that's on the table now...
     
  21. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    Indeed. It's worth pointing out that the British nearly intervened on behalf of the Confederates, and were only warded off by threats from Russia under Alexander the Liberator.
     
  22. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Guarantee women the right to choose, providing the pill, condoms, plan b and abortion services at no charge and no prescription; no parental permission for minors; institute mandatory comprehensive sex education so that people actually know how to use contraceptives before they're sexually active.
     
  23. Hef

    Hef Jedi Master star 2

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    Feeling as strong as you do, learn how to do safe abortions and perform them yourself for free.
     
  24. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Strongly, Hef.

    Reintroduce basic grammar to the US. Higher standards of basic communication might influence other areas to be less than lazy.
     
  25. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No need. We already have pills that do this quite well, we just need to make them more widely available, covered by insurance, and not subject to the "but sex=abortion=against teh Bye-bel") insecurities of the average American religious conservative (whose most endearing trait is worrying what others are up to in their bedrooms).

    Comprende?