How would you have made the prequel trilogy?

your action figure version brings up fond memories.

 

seriously whats wrong with the prequels? all this stuff is just nitpicking, let it go please.

 

Excuse me. People are free to discuss things here, battlewars. Some people just watch films and accept it all. Others pay attention to details and try to think of ways they might change details they are not sure about or don't like. There is nothing wrong with that. It fuels healthy discussion.

 

I had to include the following things.

1. the clone wars.
2. luke and leia's mother.
3. the early jedi.
4. anakin's turn.



oh wait, lucas did all of that

 

I think we're getting at the HOW more then the IF

 

Just with TPM I would make the biggest changes. I would start the film, right after the crawl, with the Trade Federation landing on Naboo right away. No Boss Nass slobbering. Jar-Jar edited down 75% or more.

 

I would've incorporated more location shoots of exotic places around the world and then enhanced those with fx when needed.

 

A lot of great ideas.

I always wanted to see a love triangle b/t Anakin, Padme, and Obi-wan.

It would make Anakin's turn to the dark side seem all the more believable, among other things.

I think it would also make sense considering the way that Kenobi talks about Anakin in the OT.

 

I think AOTC was an enjoyable film, but TPM is really not up to standard. I really think that it was possible to mix TPM and AOTC into one film;

*Padme could be introduced as a Senator when she goes to Coruscant to vote against the Army as in AOTC.

*QuiGon (not Anakin) escorts Padme back to Naboo, but an assasination attempt on her on the way puts the ship out of action, leading them to Tatooine for spare parts as in TPM, then find Anakin.

*Sadly, no Maul, but more Dooku. We have Obi Wan discovering the creation of the clones.

*Palpatine becomes chancellor after a senate vote of no confidence in Valorum when it becomes clear the seperatist movement threatens the Republic and the Republic seems powerless to stop this.

*Keep pod race to show Anakin's force abilities

-No need for the Gungans (including Binks)

-no need for Trade disputes on planets we dont care about.

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This would allow for an Episode 2 that is slap-bang in the centre of the Clone Wars. I think this would have been desirable because it would be more emotional and important having Anakin and Padme getting it on with the background of a raging war, as would Shmi's death.

We could see plenty of Palpatine'e medelling, playing the Republic and the Seperatists off one another and have another full episode of Dooku, rather than another token Sith apprenctice.

 

As in my other thread, I just would have Hayden play Anakin at the age of 16-20 years old in TPM. No Gungans. TPM ends w/ the start of the clone wars and AotC is set during the CW.

Other fun ideas I've thought about considering the changes above:

**No Maul or Dooku. Instead, the Sith is a female Twilek that takes Maul's place in TPM and Dooku's place in Episodes 2 & 3.

**Don't kill off Qui-Gon until AotC.

 

Instead, the Sith is a female Twilek that takes Maul's place in TPM and Dooku's place in Episodes 2 & 3.

Someone wants to see more of Aayla Secura.

 

I would of hired a better actor than Hayden for the part of Anakin in AOTC!

 

The Prequel are like the Godfather Part III to me : JUST PLAIN ATROCIOUS .

ROTS look like it will save the day but Ep.I and Ep.II were just a waste of time .

I know that fans on this site are way too biased that Lucas really let his creative vision going too far and didn't focus enough on the written dialogue , the editing etc ......


I think that TPM was too juvenile , I mean we were expecting dark political plot and all of that was too subliminal to be effective .

Anakin should have been more like Michael Corleone , a good hearted boy who have to do badthing to protect the one he love .

Instead of that Anakin is a whiner , complainer and the mass audience still doesnt care/relate to him .

Lucas synopsis and plot was Excellent but the delivery was ehhh.......

 

There are probably SEVERAL elements I'd have liked to change in TPM & AOTC, but I'll only delve into the major stuff.

I don't know how I would have written the prequels, for it is not my story to write. However, I can definitely offer changes to the existing films I would have liked to see instead:

TPM

- During the Tatooine sequence, switch the roles of Obi Wan & Qui Gon. To this day, I still don't understand why it was Obi Wan who remained on the ship. He's the one who should have discovered Anakin and formed the bond with him.

- No Yoda. Leave him as a mystery until his appearance in TESB. It would have added to his mysticism. I thought there should have been at least five or six Jedi with prominent speaking and action roles, further allowing the viewer to see a council rather than two head Jedi and a bunch of nameless warriors. Their absence in the OT would have a greater impact on the viewer.

- Have Anakin start out the same age as Luke was in ANH, if only for the symmetry.


AOTC

- A more likeable Anakin. Show his conflict (like Luke in TESB), but don't allude to his downfall. It would've be hard to imagine seeing Luke turn evil after he'd been built up as such a hero. It would have been a complete suprise. The same should have been done with Anakin.

- No Jango please! I liked it much better whan Boba was just a mysterious mofo on the hunt for Solo. I don't need to know his back story and I don't want to either.

- Anakin should have been the one to save the day at the end, not Yoda (although I wouldn't even have Yoda in it to begin with).

 

Episode 1:
Show Obi-Wan as a Knight with a young Anakin learning the ways of the Force.
Episode 2:
Show how Anakin goes more and more into the dark side.
Episode 3:
Anakin first half of movie, Vader second half of movie kicking Jedi butt.

 

Personally, I like the Prequels the way they are. Okay if I had to change something, I would have maybe had Anakin around 17 or 18 in TPM, but that's all.

The thing is, I've noticed that one of the main problems people think the PT has is that they didn't show enough of the Clone Wars, and that AOTC should be Episode 1. But when you think about it, TPM is the movie that leads up to a huge Galactic War that lasts for about 30 years(all 6 episodes).

You see, the way I think about it, instead of the Clone Wars being too short for a huge war, think of it as the beginning of one gigantic war that continues all throughout the OT. To me, it seems more emotional having all these changes in one big war than thinking of it as one war, changing, then leading to another war. This 30 or so years was the hardest time the Galaxy has ever been through.

So this way of thinking of it helps me realise that the whole saga was made perfectly, and ROTS is gonna just blow us all away.

 

The sad thing is that 90 % of the ideas here would have made better movie than the one Lucas released .

Lucas really , really freak it up those two movies .

 

Lots and lots of complex political scenes closely analyzing Palpatine's wonderful, clever, subtle actions that he makes to manipulate the entire Senate.

 

More conflict between Obi-Wan and the council / Yoda regarding OB taking on the training of Anakin (a la "I thought that I could train your father as well as Yoda. I was wrong."

New dialogue--when Obi-Wan is being introduced to the prime minister of Kamino and they ask for his name, he says "Ben" instead of Obi-Wan and forms his incognito identity.

And finally have Qui-Gon become a more prominent "religious" figure regarding the living force. Expand Qui-Gon's role as a "John the Baptist" figure in preaching about the chosen one. In AOTC have him begin to reach out to Yoda and Yoda actually acknowledge that QG knew what he was talking about with the Living Force stuff.

 

EPISODE ONE - 18 YEARS BEFORE ANH

Padme introduced as a senator, not Queen.

Dooku leading seperatists.

Palpatine as a senator, allied to Padme gets her to vote no confidence in Valorum because of the seperatist movement.

Palpatine becomes Supreme Chancellor and orders clones.

Obi Wan slightly younger than in AOTC, but a skillful Jedi who has just become a Knight and is therefore still in partnership with QuiGon.

After assasination attempt (leading to toxic dart), Padme goes back to Naboo with QuiGon. During their journey, their ship is attacked by seperatists. They must land on Tatooine for parts.

Obi Wan trails the toxic dart and finds clones on Kamino.

Discover Anakin aged 16.

Anakin shows great force skill in pod race. QuiGon gets Anakins release from Watto.

ObiWan fights then follows Fetts to Geonosis.

ObiWan taken prisoner, QuiGon and Padme go to his aid ahead of the Jedi. Anakin comes too and shows great foresight of the situation.

Jedi and clones arrive on Geonosis.

Start of Clone Wars on Geonosis.

Dooku kills QuiGon in hangar.

QuiGon tells ObiWan that Anakin is the chosen one and must be trained no matter what the council says.

Dooku escapes and returns to Sidious, telling him the wars have started.

Jedi council test Anakin, are wary of his clouded future. ObiWan takes it upon himself to train Anakin.

CLOSING MONTAGE:

QuiGon funeral juxtaposed with the clones loading into star destroyers on Geonosis, overlooked by Palpatine.




EPISODE TWO - 14 YEARS BEFORE ANH

Clone Wars in full swing.

Development of Anakin and Padme 'getting it on'.

Development of closeness of Anakin and ObiWan.

Shmi meets her maker, Anakin goes nuts and slaughters the sand people on Tatooine.

Whilst there, Anakin and Padme meet the Lars.

Very psychological film, following the feelings of Anakin. He is tested by both the Jedi and in battle in the Clone Wars. Think the Degobah cave.

CLOSING MONTAGE:

Anakin and Padme marry. Clone wars continue all over the galaxy.




EPISODE THREE

As Revenge of the Sith.

 

Only thing I would change - MAKE YODA FULLY DIGITAL IN TPM!!! That puppet is awful!

 

EPISODE ONE - 18 YEARS BEFORE ANH

Padme introduced as a senator, not Queen.

Dooku leading seperatists.

Palpatine as a senator, allied to Padme gets her to vote no confidence in Valorum because of the seperatist movement.

Palpatine becomes Supreme Chancellor and orders clones.

Obi Wan slightly younger than in AOTC, but a skillful Jedi who has just become a Knight and is therefore still in partnership with QuiGon.

After assasination attempt (leading to toxic dart), Padme goes back to Naboo with QuiGon. During their journey, their ship is attacked by seperatists. They must land on Tatooine for parts.

Obi Wan trails the toxic dart and finds clones on Kamino.

Discover Anakin aged 16.

Anakin shows great force skill in pod race. QuiGon gets Anakins release from Watto.

ObiWan fights then follows Fetts to Geonosis.

ObiWan taken prisoner, QuiGon and Padme go to his aid ahead of the Jedi. Anakin comes too and shows great foresight of the situation.

Jedi and clones arrive on Geonosis.

Start of Clone Wars on Geonosis.

Dooku kills QuiGon in hangar.

QuiGon tells ObiWan that Anakin is the chosen one and must be trained no matter what the council says.

Dooku escapes and returns to Sidious, telling him the wars have started.

Jedi council test Anakin, are wary of his clouded future. ObiWan takes it upon himself to train Anakin.

CLOSING MONTAGE:

QuiGon funeral juxtaposed with the clones loading into star destroyers on Geonosis, overlooked by Palpatine.


Perfect but me personnally I would have written off Qui Gonn Jin and I would have add Darth Maul as not a Sith but more like a Beast with no brain .

I would have add a Count Dooky much more younger too but still eaten by the Dark Side .

I would have me TPM more violent and I will also had use better costumes .

The whole Naboo design was atrocious to me .

 

JDN 21's Prequel vision makes a lot of sense, even though Maul isn't in it and will disappoint many. I really like the ideas though. I like the continuity of Obi-Wan meeting Anakin when he is older and in the clone wars prime so that Obi-Wan's statement in ROTJ is more true ("When I first met your father, he was the best starfighter pilot in the galaxy").

How about this compromise with Maul in JDN21's Prequels: At the end of Ep 1 you have OB and QG vs. Maul and Dooku--the first and only 2 on 2 lightsaber duel. OB gets separated, QG is killed by Maul and Douku, then when the battle is over, Douku (the smart one) literally stabs Maul (the beast with no brain) in the back in true Sith fashion.

 

Like some people said, now that I look back at it....changing the movies now seem kinda pointless. They bring the story along and the fight scenes were still pretty good. What needs to change is the writing and the acting of the movies cause their just horrible. (especially for Episode I) But if you want some changes then I would say:

1) No Jar Jar and Gungans. I know that Naboo was in alittle feud with both humans and Gungans but it really didnt make the story any different when the battle for Naboo happenend. Just put humans in the battle instead of Gungans and I'll be find....Oh and less Jar Jar the better *shudders*
2) Count Dooku out, Darth Maul in: Dooku just isn't cutting it for me guys. He's boring and he confuses me cause I can't tell if hes pure evil or still good. Maul should've stayed alive from Episode I and Obi-Wan fights him in the battle for Genosis. That would be a better death for Maul instead of the crappy way he did.
3) More Fett's please!: I don't know if he see Bobba in Episode III but I want to see more of Jango! Let Anikan kill him in this movie and that's also a better death for Jango. Then in Episode V we can laugh because Bobba is working for the man that killed his father.

Other then that the movies seem fine to me. Oh but maybe we can have more action and less romance. And maybe introduce Anikian alittle better....Other then that, that's all I got.

 

Even though I have been pretty vocal about the flaws in the prequels, looking back on them, I would not have changed the stories, the events, the ages of the characters, or even *gasp* written out the idea of Jar Jar Binks.

Instead, I would have tried to get better dialogue written, better performances, and better editors. Storywise, it is presumptuous to think we could have come up with better plots, since the STAR WARS saga is GL's thing and he's always had his own vision of what was supposed to happen. It's the *execution* which was his downfall.

@Sapno Krai

Could not have it said better! 100% agreed!