figsaysdavenotfullsail hewentthereaskhim But if you'll be without a car, you're far better off in L.A. than Orlando. While everyone says you have to drive to be in L.A., you really cannot survive in Orlando without a vehicle. Los Angeles has been big for much longer and has actual streets/boulevards, remnants from a time when people walked to their daily needs and wants. The urban form of Orlando is like the typical American "city" outside of the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and Pacific Coast, where shops and businesses tend to be along highways instead of streets and avenues, and with deep setbacks when they are on streets. 95%+ of it was built long after cars were invented/laws against good urbanism put in place, so everything is spread out like crazy and totally unwalkable. Incase anyone reading this is confused, here's a couple screenshots to demonstrate what I mean. [image=http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4337/laorweb.jpg] The top is in San Fernando Valley, the bottom is about three miles northeast of Universal Orlando.