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FF:QLD 'I Love You, Madame Librarian' by Kurt Vonnegut

Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by -luigi-, Aug 12, 2004.

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  1. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sure to ruffle a few feathers.

    I, like probably most of you, have seen Michael Moore?s Fahrenheit 9/11. Its title is a parody of the title of Ray Bradbury?s great science fiction novel, Fahrenheit 451. This temperature 451° Fahrenheit, is the combustion point, incidentally, of paper, of which books are composed. The hero of Bradbury?s novel is a municipal worker whose job is burning books.

    And on the subject of burning books: I want to congratulate librarians, not famous for their physical strength or their powerful political connections or their great wealth, who, all over this country, have staunchly resisted anti-democratic bullies who have tried to remove certain books from their shelves, and have refused to reveal to thought police the names of persons who have checked out those titles.

    So the America I loved still exists, if not in the White House or the Supreme Court or the Senate or the House of Representatives or the media. The America I love still exists at the front desks of our public libraries.

    And still on the subject of books: Our daily sources of news, papers and TV, are now so craven, so unvigilant on behalf of the American people, so uninformative, that only in books can we find out what is really going on. I will cite an example: House of Bush, House of Saud by Craig Unger, published near the start of this humiliating, shameful blood-soaked year.

    In case you haven?t noticed, and as a result of a shamelessly rigged election in Florida, in which thousands of African Americans were arbitrarily disenfranchised, we now present ourselves to the rest of the world as proud, grinning, jut-jawed, pitiless war lovers, with appallingly powerful weaponry and unopposed.

    In case you haven?t noticed, we are now almost as feared and hated all over the world as the Nazis were.

    With good reason.

    In case you haven?t noticed, our unelected leaders have dehumanized millions and millions of human beings simply because of their religion and race. We wound and kill ?em and torture ?em and imprison ?em all we want.

    Piece of cake.

    In case you haven?t noticed, we also dehumanize our own soldiers, not because of their religion or race, but because of their low social class.

    Send ?em anywhere. Make ?em do anything.

    Piece of cake.

    The O?Reilly Factor.

    So I am a man without a country, except for the librarians and the Chicago-based magazine you are reading, In These Times.

    Before we attacked Iraq, the majestic New York Times guaranteed that there were weapons of mass destruction there.

    Albert Einstein and Mark Twain gave up on the human race at the end of their lives, even though Twain hadn?t even seen World War I. War is now a form of TV entertainment. And what made WWI so particularly entertaining were two American inventions, barbed wire and the machine gun. Shrapnel was invented by an Englishman of the same name. Don?t you wish you could have something named after you?

    Like my distinct betters Einstein and Twain, I now am tempted to give up on people too. And, as some of you may know, this is not the first time I have surrendered to a pitiless war machine.

    My last words? ?Life is no way to treat an animal, not even a mouse.?

    Napalm came from Harvard. Veritas!

    Our president is a Christian? So was Adolf Hitler.

    What can be said to our young people, now that psychopathic personalities, which is to say persons without consciences, without a sense of pity or shame, have taken all the money in the treasuries of our government and corporations and made it all their own?
     
  2. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    Wouldnt it be easier just to rename the Queensland board the "political dicussion forum"?
     
  3. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I thought you liked political dicussion?

    Besides, I know there are a few Vonnegut fans here.
     
  4. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    of course i do.

    for some reason, i had this idea i could escape that at a star wars discussion board :p
     
  5. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There's plenty of other threads to reply to.
     
  6. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    It just seems to be that there are a lot of political threads started lately...not that anyone here would be trolling or baiting mind you!!! [face_whistling]
     
  7. NeecH

    NeecH Jedi Master star 4

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    I actually remember that a while back we decided that we wouldn't have politcal disscussions on the QLD boards (you were a part of that luigi).
     
  8. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Things change. Like I said you don't have to participate, it's a free country (sort of).
     
  9. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    I actually remember that a while back we decided that we wouldn't have politcal disscussions on the QLD boards (you were a part of that luigi).

    I recall that too...
     
  10. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This makes 9 replies without any reference to what the thread is actually about. I don't mind going off topic but from the very first reply?

    Surely someone has an opinion about the article (if they bothered to read it) or Kurt Vonnegut?
     
  11. kahli

    kahli Jedi Knight star 5

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    Free country - good one luigi!

    In a free country our elected representatives would, from time to time, disagree in more directions than simply party politics.

    Vonnegut is one of my favourite authors. I've read that piece before, but it still managed to make me a bit sad. There's a terrible happiness to his work, or a joyful sadness, if you prefer.

    Thanks for posting it luigi.
     
  12. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    ...have staunchly resisted anti-democratic bullies who have tried to remove certain books from their shelves, and have refused to reveal to thought police the names of persons who have checked out those titles.

    Even though those laws have in fact resulted in arrests! The only people who lose are the terrorists.
     
  13. kahli

    kahli Jedi Knight star 5

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    Arrests?

    How many convictions, and on what charges?
     
  14. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    I really cant be bothered checking news items from last year...
     
  15. kahli

    kahli Jedi Knight star 5

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  16. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    right back atcha sista!

    :rolleyes:
     
  17. GoobaFish

    GoobaFish Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In case you haven?t noticed, we are now almost as feared and hated all over the world as the Nazis were.

    With good reason.

    In case you haven?t noticed, our unelected leaders have dehumanized millions and millions of human beings simply because of their religion and race. We wound and kill ?em and torture ?em and imprison ?em all we want.





    There's a sobering thought.
     
  18. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    //reads article and watches facts go on a holiday to Noumea
     
  19. kahli

    kahli Jedi Knight star 5

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    exactly which facts are in correct or 'on holiday'?
     
  20. -luigi-

    -luigi- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I thought it was an opinion piece?
     
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