I think I've figured out how NJO will end....

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  1. Corran_Porn Jedi Knight

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    Now, i don't have any spoilers of unpublished books yet, so all of this is from events up to Rebirth. I was sitting around with a few friends discussing this and we think we figured it out. This may be a little out of order and confusing, but it seemed to us where they are going with this.

    Where to begin....to put it bluntly, the Emperor had a superwaepon developed that the Jedi find and use to send the Vong back their galaxy.

    So how did we get to that?

    1. Rogue Planet. Takes place about the time that the Vong are scouting the galaxy. Obviously the Jedi, and Tarkin, would report back what they knew to Palpatine, tipping him off that the Vong were here and he uses his spy network to get some info on him. Also a possibility that Vergere does manage to get a message or two back to them that gives some input on the Vong, and their capabilities.

    2. Zahn duology. The Chiss are waiting in the Unknown Regions for a extra-galactic enemy. So Thrawn knows about the Vong. How? Either from the emperor himself, or from the records he retrieves on Wayland.

    3. Vector Prime. OK, a big deal was made about the mayor of Serndipal. He seems to know who the Vong are. Happens to have a thermal detonator and is willing to sacrafice himself with no problem to help defeat them. Who was he? A sentry posted by palpatine. Palpy knows they are coming, but not sure when. He puts these sentries out there to notify him when the Vong attack the Rim and to try to fight them off. The mayor was one of those. He was human while the others on the planet were not. Expect to see the Jedi run into some more of these. I assume based ont he timeline that they are clonetroopers that are sent out, as was Boba Fett, so let that start another argument that the mayor was Fett.

    4. So what happens in detail. The Jedi run into another sentry on some other planet they go to for a mission. Anakin is there and recognizes the guy as identical to the mayor. They finally rope the guy into telling what he was doing there. After the defeat of the Emperor, they found it necessary to stay as sentries to protect the planets that they came to love. So he tells the Jedi that the Emperor put them there and has information about the Vong. He helps the Jedi search for the location of another secret castle that the Emperor had. They find it, and with it the plans for a superweapon that will defeat the Vong, likely something biological. So the Jedi have to travel to Zenkot, from RP, to have it built there. While there, Luke bonds with the pods which give him some memories about his father and Ben. (Just a neat side story) They have to defend the planet from the Vong, who had spies there and find them. They escape with the weapon and go after Coruscant, which the Vong have taken over. They enable the weapon, which is a being that can take over control of all Vong creatures that they use. the Jedi use the advantage to defeat the Vong.

    There it is, let me know what you think.

    P.S. An idea for EU well in the future came to us as well. It is based ont he fact that the Vong, when they return spend about 1000 years scattering basals all over thier galaxy. To revenge their defeat, they turn the basals to the NR galaxy, and collide the 2 in a cataclysm. The galaxy rebuilds for centuries, and the Jedi are all forgotten, except for one family that possesses all of the secrets...well, that is just setting it up. No specifics yet.
  2. PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff

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    Your theory could be a possibility, but I doubt it'll be what happens. I think there will be no more superweapons.

    Well, we'll see.

    And just a precision :

    "The Chiss are waiting in the Unknown Regions for a extra-galactic enemy."

    This is false, and a lot of people misinterpret VotF. Parck says there are a hundred threats waiting to strike, but he's talking about the Unknown Regions. So maybe they knew, but maybe not (and I think they didn't - otherwise they'd already counter-attacked).
  3. Corran_Porn Jedi Knight

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    Hmm. i'll have to re-read the duology then. I always thought it had just said that they were waiting there for some powerful foe, and I even thought that it said that the threat was from outside the galaxy. it's been a while since I read it though, so I just may have taken the general impression. But still, that leaves open the possibility that they were there for the Vong, especially since they decided to help out, which they hadn't done before.
  4. PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff

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    The exact quote is on page 429 of VotF, but I suggest you read the whole chapter... It's worth it... It refreshes a lot about the Chiss and the Hand.
  5. DVader316 Jedi Grand Master

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    I agree with PrinceXizor that a superweapon will not be the deciding factor in the NJO. But, on the other 'hand,' I do think the Chiss will play a pivotal role in defeating the Vong. I think that is why we havent seen them of late, so when they do reappear, everyone will be shocked.
  6. DarthSeti5 Jedi Grand Master

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    I think the fall of the Vong will come from the Shamed Ones and Nom Anor. Also, in Rebirth, Shimera disobeys the Vong Gods. If the Vong here of this, they may revolt.
  7. lejmar_faldor_uk Force Ghost

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    I like the idea of the last remaining imperirals being on planets waiting for an enemy to strike I Don't like the idea of the Vong being around for so long as I feel it takes away from the films but thats just me.
  8. Skywalk272 Jedi Master

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    I think rougue planet will definatley play a role and I think vergere is part of a key for Luke to learn more about his father's past-but no super weapon. Shimerra and Luke gotta duke it out.
  9. Cypher18 Jedi Master

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    I think that it is a good idea. Except that Zenkot was destroyed at the end of the book so i dont think that luke could get a ship there. I might be wrong I havent read it in a very long while.
  10. chayes32 Jedi Padawan

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  11. MysteryWhiteBoy8 Jedi Knight

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    Well Corran i think you've got great evidence and its pretty solid. I think it would make sense, however i think its unlikely. If the last book ended with some kind of superweapon, those of us here would tear LFL to shreds. so they wouldn't do it just to avoid that, right ? hehehehe. they would never do anthing to get us upset.

    also agree with whomever said that they didn't like the idea of the vong being around so long as it takes away from anakin and the movies. good call.
  12. tye_fighter Jedi Padawan

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    I don't beleive that there will be any resurgence of the empire to save the galaxy. They will help, I'm sure but not be the integral part it. There is also no way that any empirial or NR lost admirals and war tactitions will suddenly come out of hiding to help out. There is no way that they will have waited this long to do something.

    I am also sick to death of superweapons - I grew up with the belief that the death star was a monstrosity on such a grand scale that it would never be seen again, now about 3 and a half death stars later, one sun crusher, a couple of world devastators and a centerpoint station: it seems like every man and his droid's got a spare superweapon lying around!

    Perhaps a better ending would be a Vong civil war, perhaps a real alliance? There better not be any mutant viruses that only effects vong which kills them and their technology. (Wrong universe)

    At some time, the Jedi must discover what is hiding the vong from the force. It should be something spiritual, not technical. (IE absolutely no anti-metachlorians) The jedi could discover new techniques and philosophies that take them beyond their current understanding of the force, preferably without the help of "The Current".
  13. Dargo_Seranek Jedi Knight

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    Zonama Sekot wasn't destroyed at the end of Rogue Planet.
  14. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    Ah a chiss supporter, good. Well ya know what im going to say but ill say it anyway. The chiss have been waiting and with help from the Empier the two forces have scattered the vong fleet(thus shown in Rebirth). I really like your idea corran and i thoink your on to something.
  15. Dargo_Seranek Jedi Knight

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    The bills are rebuilding, fair enough. Can I say the same about the niners
  16. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah sure, happy someone agrees.
  17. Dargo_Seranek Jedi Knight

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    Still havent got a decent RB yet have you.
    Actually come to think of it neither have we!
  18. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    Travis Henry is are Rookie dude rb.
  19. Commander__Wright Jedi Knight

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    I think that the Vong will take Coruscant, chase the NR down towards the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, and engage the SR, because of the technology. Then, the Imp. Remnant and the Chiss will come and mop up after the Vong come limping out of battle. Then the Empire will be restored, but not like it was under Palpatine.
  20. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    The ssi-ruuk got wiped out by the chiss.(maybe not officialy but still) And I would like the Galaxy to be ruled by the Empier exept without the anti alien sentiment.
  21. EnforcerSG Jedi Master

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    It would not end with the vong being compleatly wiped out. First off, the jedi would not like that, and then they would start a war (or better, when the jedi try to stop the vong from being slaughtered, a war against the jedi will start). Most likely, the Vong will have some weekenss shown in SxS, and they will be driven out of the galaxy, and an alliance will be formed.

    My guess.
  22. Gandalf the Grey Jedi Grand Master

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    How does the NJO end?

    Think Hamlet. [face_devil]
  23. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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  24. Cosmin-Coral Jedi Knight

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    Go on Gandalf, explain Hamlet to us who've not read it.
    Please. ;)
  25. Gandalf the Grey Jedi Grand Master

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    Put it this way: in the Complete Works of William Shakespeare (Abridged), there is a 3 second version of Hamlet. Everyone dies.

    In the full version...
    Hamlets father- Dead before the play even begins (a baf sign in a Shakespeare play)
    Claudius- Killed by Hamlet
    Hamlet- Killed by Laertes (due to Claudius' treachery)
    Polonius- Killed by Hamlet for evesdropping
    Rosencrantz and Guildenstern- They presented a letter to the English king that read "Please kill the bearer(s) of this message. So he obliged them.
    Gertrude- Accidently kills herself when she drinks the poisoned cup meant for Hamlet.
    Ophelia- Goes mad and drowns herself.
    Horatio- intends to kill himself, but Hamlet persuades him with his dying breath to write the story first
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