Double post, but these are interesting claims. Yes, I get it... you assume that people who frequent the jcc are incapable of engaging in in-depth discussion, and should, therefore, be kept separate from everybody else. You make a lot of assumptions and judgments about people you are very unfamiliar with. Nope. No one, including me has said anything like this. You can engage in all the in-depth discussion you want, that's why the Senate exists. Come over and take part in all the the in-depth discussion you want. However, if someone (not specifically you) says "I'll only come over to a forum if the standard is reduced," it gives the impression, that yes, they are uncomfortable with engaging in such discussion. It's like if someone said "I'm capable of running in a marathon, but will only choose to do so if I can ride a motorcycle.." Yeah, that kind of defeats the whole point of the marathon. Academic sports discussion... okay. I take it you're unfamiliar with the depths that sports discussion reaches. To use baseball again, it has some of the most in-depth, mathematic-based statistics of any sport. But regardless, I think you're mis-characterizing what "academic" means in this case. It's simply a discussion with other people on a more thoughtful level. The truth is, this was thoroughly discussed by the community and moderators, and a decision was made. I'm sorry that you chose to not take part... I guess it's equivalent to somebody choosing not to vote and complaining about who gets elected, after the fact. For the most part, the collective community have adjusted and are running quite smoothly. It's unfortunate that you were late to the party and are unhappy about how it was organized, but really, you can choose to take part, or you can continue to make the same identical complaint, day after day. You are trying take part in a discussion that happened several months ago. And this is what works against you. Again, to redirect your point, why are you so fearful of change? Just because a decision was made months ago during the temp board period, it's forever locked in stone? It can't ever be revisited or undone? Pish pish... I know you don't mean that.