So it seems we want to swear so long as said word is not directed at anyone as a flame? "And let's dump starring out offending 'effs'. It's just silly at this point. " I will allow the use of disallowed words in this thread, only in the context of discussion of a specific word on the list. However, my patience will be short with anyone who tries to push the envelope. Ok, I am gonna use bad words so as to get a grip here. So there folks go, for example, to the E7 forum and don't like the stupidity of a post. Obviously they cannot directly flame the poster but in the TOS we can "attack the post but not the poster". Are mods really going to let "Oh what the **** is this ****?" go by when talking about the content of a post? I'll be honest that just crossing that line by that much is ok with me but what are these forums going to look like and are we all going to be ok with it? I can't really see myself throwing said evil eff word out with abandon, maybe the occasional ess word, etc etc. What will constitute "abuse". At the website for The Order Of The Stick the rule is that there is NO tolerance for any direct flaming but the occasional curse word is ok so long as no one goes overboard but "overboard" is not defined nor apparently needed. Can we expect folks to behave and what will define "behave". Think of it this way. There is a red light, a yellow light, and a green light. Going through green is obviousl yok, going through a red is not, a yellow light in many states is "at the discretion of the cop". You could go through a yellow one day and get a ticket but on another get by with no problem. You can update the list or perhaps update the tolerance but I would hope for a clear definition of some kind of what abuse will be.