What's gone on in this thread, jeez. The icon thread used to be a nice place to come and talk about icons, now it seems like everyone is complaining about something. Constructive criticism has always been one of the first rules in the icon thread...really, in any thread/forum when people's work is on display. Honestly, no one expects to post their work and be told it's "awful" or "terrible", especially without any advice on how to improve; suggesting a new icon isn't really substantial advice. If things keep up like this, it'll be a sad day for icons. If someone's work isn't up to snuff or isn't "out-of-this-world amazingly fantastical", then try and encourage better techniques; if you don't know any improved techniques...then I think it's best the comments are kept to yourself. As for the Christmas icons still being up, it's not an act of treason; we're going through a shift in management so things are bound to lag a bit...even seventeen plus days. I really don't see that as a need to constantly post your grievances...as with anything else, I'd suggest you take it to a Moderator/Admin if you feel you must be heard.