Amph ID4: Resurgence kicks the tires and lights the fires in 2016 (ID4 3 to follow?)

Can't wait!

 

i bet you can't. i wanna talk about fascist undertones, people!!

 

Brilliant? Whu...no...wtf

 

you dont think the film starship troopers was a brilliant satire of the original book and jingoism generally?

 

I prefer the CGI from the first film. Everything in this just looks...plastic.

 

Well, in all fairness, there's really no way the planet would have been habitable/sustainable after the events of the 1st movie....

 

I'm still seeing it but...some of the fun has gone. Remember Harry Connick Jr.? Then those little exchanges between Goldblum's character and his character's Dad? I just don't get a sense of that here. Of course, there could be elements of that in the film and they've just decided to show a straight faced trailer. But I just hope they remember that the cheesier moments of ID4 are part of what made it great along with the spectacle. Even Brent Spiner's character looks serious.

 

My suspension of disbelief is that the gravity control the motherships used didn't just fail and then they plummeted. They sort of slowly fell but fast enough to crumble along with the internal explosions.

 

Good old Emmerich destruction fest! I'm in!

 

This looks like hot garbage. You couldn't pay me to see this ****.

 

So nobody wants to talk about the fact that this is starship troopers with better effects and without the self-awareness?

 

I don't think the actors who played in Starship Troopers were very aware, though to some extent the script (and to a much fuller extent the book) certainly was.

 

I thought the book was just straight up pro-fascism? Admittedly I haven't read it, but that's what I've always heard

 

I haven't read it. But I've heard it spun that it was "ironically" pro-fascist. Seems like a stupid thing to have done.

 

It was irony then. It's bitter seriousness now.
And no Will Smith.

 

No. The Ten-spot is correct. The book was totally, and unironically, pro-fascist. The movie was ironically-fascist. And this movie doesn't necessarily look like either yet; it's possible it will be that way.

 

Looks pretty unironically pro fascist to me

 

Well, the world government in Starship Troopers was both unified and militaristic -- and fascist -- so I can at least fathom why Ten-spot might be coming up with it, though I wholly-disagree that we can tell from the trailer...

I mean, it's absolutely, positively nothing like even the Starship Troopers trailer...

 

the fact that they're united against non-human beings only disqualifies fascism if your brain is entirely immune to the concept of metaphor

 

Eh, yes and no. I mean, I get it... and things like Watchmen (original comics, not movie) and Starship Troopers uniting humanity against "the Other" are, for sure, fascist. But the original Independence Day wasn't, and neither was War of the Worlds (the movie, not the series) despite the overtures of British rule, etc. wasn't. It's not a certainty yet, and I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

 

Fascism got vilified as/with communism even though the two are different.

And yeah, Starship Troopers was a horrible movie regardless of satire or not.