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ST If Anakin brought balance to the force how are there Sith in Episode 6?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Keeper_of_Swords, Sep 11, 2015.

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  1. Keeper_of_Swords

    Keeper_of_Swords Jedi Master star 5

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    thanks for the explanations
     
  2. TheLateAdmiralPiett

    TheLateAdmiralPiett Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I assume you mean 7.

    And we don't know if the Knights Of Ren or Snoke are even Sith at this point.

    Also, in before the lock.
     
  3. Chained Prometheus

    Chained Prometheus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, if we're actually talking about RotJ, then "balance" = Dead Jedi and Darkness is better anyway yolo ( ;) ) and Luke screwed up the prophecy. #edgemasterposting

    If we're talking about TFA, which I assume we are, then the answer's simple: the new baddies aren't Sith. They're something else.

    And yeah, in before the lock.
     
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  4. MotherNature's SilverSeed

    MotherNature's SilverSeed Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's the midifalloonicons.

    Think about it.
     
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  5. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Hasn't this already gotten a thread?
     
  6. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    actually we do know. not sith.
     
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  7. loki41872

    loki41872 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There aren't any.

    Explanation over.
     
  8. TheLateAdmiralPiett

    TheLateAdmiralPiett Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Oh. When was this revealed? Not doubting you, just legitimately curious.
     
  9. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    a jj interview a while back. no sith. knights of ren.
     
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  10. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I think the prophecy is often misinterpreted (even by the Jedi) to mean that all Sith must be destroyed. However the Sith existed for thousands of years without an imbalance occurring. The prequels give us subtle clues that the imbalance is a recent development. The scene between Yoda and Mace in AOTC is paramount to understanding what's going on IMO. The Jedis power is diminishing as the cloud of the dark side grows. It's Palpatine and his machinations that cause the Force to go out of balance and when Anakin kills him it's restored.

    I also believe the awakening of the Force is the result of this balance. The two sides are now on equal footing.
     
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  11. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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  12. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    it was out of balance the whole time they just didn't know it. they believed the sith were dead. they felt the power of the dark side growing later because palps was right under their nose.
     
  13. Vehgah

    Vehgah Jedi Knight star 4

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    Maybe Episode 7 is what happens when the Force is in balance.

    We assumed "balance" meant peace, but obviously that isn't the case.
     
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  14. SkywalkerOG

    SkywalkerOG Jedi Knight star 3

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    This will go that dark side tomb luke is guarding in episode XXV
     
  15. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I disagree. While no longer canon the Plagueis novel does at least represent to a degree Lucas' thoughts on the imbalance and it was made very clear that Sidious and Plagueis caused the Force to go out of balance.
     
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  16. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    yes because of their actions but as long as there were sith around the force was out of balance. i don't think they noticed any difference because the sith weren't actively in control. once palps was in control the balance really began to shift because the sith were in essence controlling the galaxy.
     
  17. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    Kylo Ren is part of an order called Knights of Ren , not Sith
     
  18. Keeper_of_Swords

    Keeper_of_Swords Jedi Master star 5

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    thanks guys, yes i meant episode 7..sorry if the title is misleading

    i ran a few searches on the internet regarding this and things are very vague - i hope however that this will be settled in the next trilogy..and we get to understand how anakin actually brought balance...(if it is by the destruction of all sith, i am assuming there will not be any sith in the next movies)

    thanks again
     
  19. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    we already know that.
     
  20. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    It's in the script.
     
  21. Darth Mikey

    Darth Mikey Jedi Master star 3

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    He brought balance in the respect of their being no Jedi or no Sith. He wiped out the Jedi, with Obi-Wan and Yoda dying during the films. He wiped out the Sith with himself and Sidious. Luke is the first of the NEW Jedi order, not the old. Same thing with the Knights and such. So he technically brought balance as it pertained to the Jedi and Sith ways of thinking and using the Force, as both Orders are completely gone by the end of Jedi. 0 vs 0 .

    and even right after ROTS, there was still balance - 2 Jedi's remaining, and 2 Sith Lord's remaining.

    So I look at it as his destiny was fulfilled, as concerning the Jedi and Sith Orders. the New Jedi Order and the Knights of Ren are completely separate, and don't involve the prophecy at all. or something, LOL!

    Of course the real world answer is JJ doesn't care or acknowledge any type of Chosen One Prophecy.
     
  22. MotherNature's SilverSeed

    MotherNature's SilverSeed Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've never given two siths about the whole "bringing balance to the force" or the lame "rule of two" to which the Sith apparently tried (halfheartedly) to adhere.

    The whole "balance of the force" notion is entirely vague, to the point of suggesting it's actually nonsense.

    It's too bad Lucas made things so unnecessarily convoluted.

    He should've stuck to the simple trope of "it's the Good Guys who try to prevent oppression and undue suffering VS. the Bad Guys who--in their pursuit of ultimate pow-ah--gleefully step on the throats of the innocent."

    The same stories could've essentially been told without the "balance" thing. Both the Good Guys and the Bad Guys use the Force--a dispassionate thing that chooses no sides and shows no concern for morality. It's very mysterious. The one thing clear about it is that it is what it is. A tad Gnostic I suppose, but hey...
     
  23. mavjade

    mavjade Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There is already a thread on this topic as it relates to the ST, find it HERE
     
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