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If Anakin could have ever just followed orders.................

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Darth_Pogey, Jun 22, 2005.

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  1. Darth_Pogey

    Darth_Pogey Jedi Master star 4

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    In Episode II he falls in love. If he hadn't he would have had no reason to turn to the dark side. He goes to Tatooine and it results in heartache and a Dark Side slide. He leaves Tatooine and doesn't do any good to save Obi-Wan but gets his arm cut off. In Episode III If he had followed the Jedi Code and not killed unarmed Dooku, he might not have turned to the dark side. He disobey's Yoda's orders by not letting go of what he fears to lose thus he continues trying to save Padme'. He disobeys Mace and goes to Palpatine's office. If he had obeyed he wouldn't have turned and with the Death of Sidious the dark side would be destroyed. If he had ever obeyed anyone of those things he wouldn't have fallen to evil.

    If He hadn't have fallen in love with Padme' he wouldn't have had the nightmares that drove him to save her at any cost.

    If he would have stayed on Naboo he would have never used the dark side and would be less suseptible to it come ROTS.

    If he hadn't had went to Geonosis, he wouldn't have lost his arm and wouldn't have wanted revenge against Dooku, which makes him angry enough at him to kill him.

    If he hadn't have killed Dooku, Palpatine would not have been able to have a new apprentice.

    If he had trained himself to let go of everything he feared to lose, He wouldn't have seeked any power to save her, even the Dark Side. And also Padme' would have lived.

    And of course If he had stayed in the temple room he wouldn't have helped murder Mace.

    If he could have followed directions, even one of these things, he would have saved the entire galaxy so much heartache and sorrow.
     
  2. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Alternatively, if the Jedi had trained him differently from the "average Jedi," he may not have turned either. The problem was that they tried to complete remove all attachment from his life even though he had grown up knowing nothing but attachment. They should have counseled him on the right decisions, but also allowed him more freedom to follow his heart when it came to certain issues, such as the dreams he was having against his mother.

    If He hadn't have fallen in love with Padme' he wouldn't have had the nightmares that drove him to save her at any cost.

    Had the Jedi allowed him to become attached, he wouldn't have had to hide anything from them. It can argued that it was his already existing steps into darkness that led him to use any means necessary to save her. They could have loved each other in peace, and the issue of her death may not have even came up.

    If he would have stayed on Naboo he would have never used the dark side and would be less suseptible to it come ROTS.

    Or, his mother would have died without him even being there. He would have sensed that, and he would have still blamed her death on the Jedi. He wouldn't have taken a step towards the dark side by murdering the Tuskens, but his contempt for the Jedi would be the same either way. He may have lashed out in anger against the Jedi instead of the Tuskens had he not been on Tatooine.

    If he hadn't had went to Geonosis, he wouldn't have lost his arm and wouldn't have wanted revenge against Dooku, which makes him angry enough at him to kill him.

    He also would have lost Obi-Wan Kenobi, who as he said, had been just like a father to him. He would have lost one that he loved, and the anger felt because of that loss may have driven him closer to the dark side.

    If he hadn't have killed Dooku, Palpatine would not have been able to have a new apprentice.

    Alternatively, the war would have continued, and Dooku would still be alive. He had to die at some point. Palpatine could have easily staged Dooku's escape and sent Anakin to kill him.

    If he had trained himself to let go of everything he feared to lose, He wouldn't have seeked any power to save her, even the Dark Side. And also Padme' would have lived.

    Letting go of everything that Anakin loved was not right for him. He needed love.

    And of course If he had stayed in the temple room he wouldn't have helped murder Mace.

    Yet Mace would have killed Palpatine, which would have convinced Anakin that the Jedi were traitorous and evil. He may have killed many of the simply out of spite after that.
     
  3. Darth_Pogey

    Darth_Pogey Jedi Master star 4

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    If he had stayed on Tatooine he wouldn't have lost Obi-Wan Kenobi. He didn't do any good by going to Geonosis. He didn't do anything to rescue him. He would have survived anyway. The jedi would have came and recued him just like they did.

    The war continued anyway besides. I mean after he cuts off Dooku's hands If he hadn't had listened to Palps and killed him, but rather brought him into custody.
     
  4. Padme_0421

    Padme_0421 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    If he wouldn't have been found by Qui-Gon the whole story wouldn't have happened. Hence my thread I started about the most important event.

    ~lovely_padme
     
  5. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    If "if"s and "but"s were raisins and nuts, we'd all have a bowl of granola.

    Sometimes, it's not that easy to just follow orders, because sometimes, the orders aren't that well thought out.



    Jedi aren't perfect
    /LM
     
  6. mynameismyown

    mynameismyown Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i don't get why the jedi allow anakin to escort padme in ep 2, other than it being a storytelling contrivance
     
  7. am-pm

    am-pm Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Obi-Wan advises against it...I think that is in a deleted scene of Ep.II though. He says he doesn't think they should be alone or something because Anakin has an emotional attachment to her? Always listen to Obi-Wan! LOL. (Think I'll add that to my signature)
     
  8. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Anakin was acting as a bodyguard/escort to keep her safe. He was protecting her. That is one of the roles of the Jedi. However, Obi-Wan felt concern that Anakin was infatuated with Padmé, and did not feel comfortable allowing her and Anakin to be alone together. Needless to say, he was right.
     
  9. ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP_

    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP_ Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'm not sure it would have made too much of a difference, with palpy standing over his shoulder at every one of these points, he really didn't have much of a chance, I mean he ad no idea he was playing a rigged game, so to speak
     
  10. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He should never have been trained in the first place. Why did Yoad and Mace go against their instincts and listen to a guy like Qui Gonn in the first place. Lunacy.
     
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