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If Anakin Had Reached His Full Potential By ROTS, Would Obi-Wan Still Have Beaten Him?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by Darth_Fruit_Fly, Jul 17, 2005.

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  1. Darth_Fruit_Fly

    Darth_Fruit_Fly Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I say Nooooo!!!! There's no way in Hades that a maximum strength Anakin Skywalker gets beaten by Obi-Wan. Lucas himself said Anakin would have been twice as powerful as the Emperor had he not taken the lave bath, so I see Obi as having ZERO chance for victory in this scenario. What say you?
     
  2. Agent_SkywalKer

    Agent_SkywalKer Jedi Knight star 6

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  3. WitchKing66

    WitchKing66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i dont know, but its funny Anakin manage to defeat a full-fledge Sith Lord a the start of ROTS with little effort, but for OB1 he took his time

    but i do know its for screentime purposes

     
  4. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    If Anakin Had Reached His Full Potential By ROTS, Would Obi-Wan Still Have Beaten Him?

    probably not, but ObiWan did beat him. and that is all that matters. :)
     
  5. Adm_Thrawn

    Adm_Thrawn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If Anakin hadn't sustained his injuries, then reached his absolute zenith as a Sith, he would've been able to beat anyone in the galaxy.
     
  6. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This should go in the ROTS What If Game Thread.
     
  7. yaddidameen

    yaddidameen Jedi Youngling star 3

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    no, anyone who says otherwise, is insane.

    anakin says "you underestimate my power." saying this clues us in, and it should tell most viewers, that if anakin was indeed as powerful as he said he was he would have executed the manuever he attempted. now since we are using the what if scenario, anakin being at his most powerful, one must think that the statement he made"you underestimate my power." would have more merit to it. meaning that now since anakin is at his most powerful (due to this what if scenario.) anakin has the capability to execute the manuver he was talking about.

    of course this entire scenario only happens if obi wan can hold out against a full powered anakin. which i sincerly doubt.
     
  8. Darth_Fruit_Fly

    Darth_Fruit_Fly Jedi Youngling star 4

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    This should go in the ROTS What If Game Thread

    Well, next time I'll consult you before making a thread, to ensure it's in the proper forum. [face_plain]
     
  9. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    [face_laugh]


    Welp, we'll never know. Not really into the whole "what if" thing, but I'll say Obi Wan would have beat him anyway. After all, Obi Wan defeated a Sith when his elder masters hadn't seen one in their life. He also beats a four-saber wielding cyborg in a duel. Obi Wan is yall Daddy.
     
  10. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No I'm just saying this dicussion fits into that thread that already exsisted before you made yours. Sorry if I made you mad.
     
  11. Darth_Muffins

    Darth_Muffins Jedi Padawan star 4

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    the "what if" thread is nothing serious....it is more of a humor thing and nobody takes it seriously.

    And yes, if Anakin was at his full power without him letting emotions get in the way, he would slice Obi like butter.
     
  12. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh I didn't know, sorry.
     
  13. yaddidameen

    yaddidameen Jedi Youngling star 3

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    twice as powerful as sidious. GL has said as much. there's no way one can reasonably argue for obi wan in this "what if" scenario.

    anakin at full strength would have been unstoppable, he would take yoda out with one hand behind his back, doesn't bode well for obi wan.
     
  14. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    anakin at full strength would have been unstoppable, he would take yoda out with one hand behind his back, doesn't bode well for obi wan.

    I totally agree, but hopefully if Anakin reached his full potenial, his strategy would have improved as well. I mean ObiWan has the High Ground and Anakin, full of Pride jumps anyway. Makes ya wonder if ObiWan would still find a way to outsmart him. [face_thinking]
     
  15. thechozn1

    thechozn1 Jedi Master star 4

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    Depends on what you mean by "full potenetial"? If you are just talking about fighting skills he would have developed over time then he would have mopped the floor with him. But his full potential as far as being the chosen one or the most powerful jedi ever was never reached because he rejected the things that would have made him great like patience, humility, and letting go of attachment.

    But had he reached his full potential as far as listening to the living will of the force rather than his own selfish desires, then there never would have been a fight with Obi-wan. So this question is kind of an oxy-moron IMO
     
  16. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    "twice as powerful as sidious. GL has said as much. there's no way one can reasonably argue for obi wan in this "what if" scenario."

    Well, that's just it, it's a "what if" scenario. Anakin is the midichlorian-filled chosen one with more force-germs than master Yoda and then he went Sith and gained even NEWER POWERS; and STILL loses to Obi Wan. It would have been another episode of "I have the high ground" where a silly Anakin makes a dumb move because power does not equal victory.

    You don't think Vader killed Palpatine in ROTJ because he was more powerful, do you?

     
  17. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    another episode of "I have the high ground" where a silly Anakin makes a dumb move because power does not equal victory You don't think Vader killed Palpatine in ROTJ because he was more powerful, do you?

    Really good point, but do you think ObiWan won because he was aB etter duelist than Anakin, or that he was smarter?. I say smarter.
     
  18. SWFanatic400

    SWFanatic400 Jedi Youngling

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    i think he would have beaten him simply because if he had reached his full potential and turned to the darkside, he would probably control his anger more and he would know the full extent of his power and it would prove too much for obi-wan. Just because he defeated Darth Maul is irrelevant because Anakin is way more powerful than he was. Anakin would win hands down.
     
  19. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    he also outsmarted Maul as well. ObiWan really is a wiley coyote [face_laugh] .
     
  20. obi1andreasen79

    obi1andreasen79 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    lucas says in the "return of darth vader" on the OT bonus disc.
    "anakin is more powerful but obi wan is more experienced." it comes down to power vs experience. common sense should tell you which would usually prevail.
     
  21. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Being smart is a vital part of trategy in combat. It is TRUE power, it is TRUE strength.

    Ironically, the stronger one becomes in the darkside, the stupider they get. Arrogance and overconfidence clouds their judgment leaving them vulnerable. So, by making Anakin his "potential" self, would actually make him weaker against Obi Wan.
     
  22. Darth_Fruit_Fly

    Darth_Fruit_Fly Jedi Youngling star 4

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    If Anakin fought Kenobi at "full" strength, Kenobi's mental edge that he has in ROTS goes out the window. A fully strengthened Anakin would have been completely unstoppable, as his power would be so great, that it would have nullified, or should I say, eraticated any previous advantage Obi held over him. Anakin would have been like a wrecking ball, to Obi-Wan's grandfather clock.
     
  23. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    With what? His dueling, force-lightening, super-force push? We already see the Sith's list of powers and it's short. What would Obi Wan lose to him in? What would over power him to the point where he can't use wit?
     
  24. Darth_Fruit_Fly

    Darth_Fruit_Fly Jedi Youngling star 4

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    It makes up a a large portion of it, not doubt. But strength, that is physical strength, is just as crucial, if not more so, in certain arenas of combat, especially when it's one on one. I mean if knowledge was the fundamental root of both mental and physical strenght, then by that token, Einstein should have been "The Baddest Man On The Planet." But alas, he was gifted at splitting molecules, not skulls.
     
  25. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    He wasn't a warrior either. But just yesterday I watched a buffed up Bane throw BATMAN around like a rag-doll until eventually the big brute was outwitted. He even outsmarted SUPERMAN before who didn't approve of his crime-fighting methods. I also watched a brand new Sith yell out "YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWERS!!" before being turned into a doormat.;)
     
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