If i was the PM i would

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  1. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    i mean teach modern things to kids in schools.....well social skills anyway how to hold a pub conversations for example lol how to avoid fights etc etc.
    i think im anti country because of my dad he grew up in hong kong.
    god save the queen.Scotland needs its independance if we mess it up then its our mess up this was our country it was stolen and not given back by the queen.
    sorry but if shes such a do gooder she doesnt get her hands dirty and get out their and help her family do get special rigths princess anne and her dangerous dogs.
    its daft id strip their powers and put htem in a council house make them find a job and budget like regular people they wouldnt like it.

  2. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    plain black flag of doooom
    or the jolly roger show president bush we take no prisoners....
    id cut most ties with him and all.
    no man tells me when to go to war. lol
  3. FatBurt Force Ghost

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    I wouldn't cut any ties with the US though I would be more careful over when I said yes.
  4. jedi_master_booth Jedi Master

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    as an ex soldier myself - i hated the idea for war - personly blair and bush should have went to the haig for war crimes - there was no real reason to remove sadham - bush went in for the oil , (FATHER LIKE SON )BOTH IDOTS !!!!

    They went to war in the hunt for binlarden but no couldnt find him there so they went for sadham who next ??

    team USA world idots !!

  5. Lord_Ogli Force Ghost

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    They may have been after oil but sadam was still a nutter and we're well rid of him.
  6. jedi_master_booth Jedi Master

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    never mind sadham bush wants removing first - how dare he call it war on terror -
    hes never seen war whimp
  7. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    i doubt hes seen terror eitehr he helps cause it...
    i can admit to be terrified when i couldnt get out of my village for g8 were not that far away they closed the big bridge....
    i was awoken at 9 am to chinooks going overhead i thought it was doomsday then to find out their was a hurricane heading to where my parents were on holiday lol thats terror....
  8. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    i doubt hes seen terror eitehr he helps cause it...
    i can admit to be terrified when i couldnt get out of my village for g8 were not that far away they closed the big bridge....
    i was awoken at 9 am to chinooks going overhead i thought it was doomsday then to find out their was a hurricane heading to where my parents were on holiday lol thats terror....
  9. edgejedi88 Jedi Master

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    Pensions
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    For the right to draw a pension from 55 for those who want to. The right for a part-work part-pension option for those who choose it.

    Pensioners, having contributed to society all their lives, to have free housing, heating, telephone and local travel.

    Childcare and education
    Free, good-quality education from the nursery to university. A living grant for all students. Abolish tuition fees.

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    No to privatisation.

    High quality council housing ? decent, affordable, secure and accountable.

    Do the repairs, renovate our homes ? clear the £19 billion backlog with no strings attached.

    A tenants? vote on any changes ? honest debate and equal funding for tenants? organisations and campaigns.

    The right of rent officers to force landlords to charge a fair rent.

    A massive building programme of public housing to meet need. Democratic public ownership of the giant construction corporations.

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    Such a plan should be worked out by representatives from workers in the energy sector, scientists, community and environmental organisations.

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  10. FatBurt Force Ghost

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    Wooaaahh!!!




    Good luck!
  11. edgejedi88 Jedi Master

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    yeah....I think that agenda has been going for a while...nevermind, we soldier on chipping away hey...[face_tired]
  12. jedi_master_booth Jedi Master

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    sounds like this is turning out to be a good thread -
  13. Lord_Ogli Force Ghost

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    And if Jace had his way: Expensive.
  14. Eddie Force Ghost

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    Yeah Jase, how yous gona pay for all this? Not on my taxes I think! Erm Nubian err....
  15. F16WarBird Jedi Youngling

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    You're an idiot!
  16. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    my taxes dont seem to go toward schoos or the nhs but idiots who get methadone and housing rapists...and people who arent even from this coutry...
    yet when i need help i cant get it....i have to wait two years to fid out what can kill me....
  17. jedi_master_booth Jedi Master

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    F16Warbird no Im not an Idot - I belive as a ex soilder that the war In Iraq was wrong pure and simple and that half wit In the white house Is to blame .

    He went to war for the oil !!!!!
  18. F16WarBird Jedi Youngling

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    Yes, you are an idiot because:

    #1 - You can't even spell the word you are trying to insult someone with

    #2 - You said "team USA" thereby labeling all of my countrymen as "idots"

    #3 - You're an even bigger idiot because there is no such word as "Soilder".

    I thought the British army had higher standards.

    Let me know if you feel the need to insult my country some more. I've got a spell check program to send you.

    :mad:
  19. Lord_Ogli Force Ghost

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    Calm it U 2 or i gonna bang both your heads together. U know fine well he didn't mean every American and if everyone who said Mr Bush was an idiot thought so then there wouldn't be many ppl who thought highly of America.
  20. Susan_Delgado Jedi Knight

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    wellllll
    NOFX said the best tthing about the president.....
    "the idiot son of an ****"
    and thier american....
    now calling someone an idiot because of thier beliefs isnt nice....
    i also belive the war was uneeded
    just mr bush taking the heat of osma bin laden....
    but thats my beliefs if i was american they may be different but i doubt it.
  21. F16WarBird Jedi Youngling

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    No I didn't and I've yet to hear a clarification. I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about our president. Wanna bash him? Go right ahead. I don't care. But leave me and my people out of it. Thank you very much!
  22. edgejedi88 Jedi Master

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    Hmm. To a dark place this line of thought will take us. Great care we must take.

    A Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Darth Bush's apprentice, Darth Blair. :eek:
  23. FatBurt Force Ghost

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    I'm not going to get drawn into a Bush/Blair bashing session here and I don't really want to see it either.

    Debate is fine but open critism isn't.



    I personally feel the whole Iraq war was badly handled. They went in on bogus evidence and were possibly a touch to quick to react. That said however I feel removing Saddam from the region was a good move though this should have been done by Bush snr.



    Forcing regieme change through war is a bad move however as it just creates more problems than it solves as it creates extremists (see all the car bombs recently [face_plain] ).

    However the UN proceedures in place were not helping the Iraqi people as Saddam still had his luxury but the people still had squalor.


    As I say removing Saddam was a good move (Mugabe next) but we need to look at ways that don't involve military action every time. This is something I feel Bush and his advisors look to do (Iran being threatened) and the fact that Blair is prepared to go along with it just reflects badly on the UK.


    Iran have said they are prepared to look into alternatives with help from the US and EU but Bush and Blair seem to be over looking this and want to head towards Iran for their latest assault on terror as opposed to actually trying to sit down and try to fix the problem and reach a compromise.



    I certainly don't know the answer and neither do Bush and Blair but sometime I feel they only have a basic grasp on the question and like anyone who doesn't fully understand the question they're lashing out in the hope that they figure it out.
  24. jedi_master_booth Jedi Master

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    There is a lot more i would say no the matter - hes lucky i toned it down a lot -

    most yanks are fine - my problem is we went to war without the UN backing on 1441 and what for .

    george w bush has been called far worse than idot !!!
    war munger for a start !

    Mr Blair has been rolled over the hot coals for his part over here - I whatched farenhight 911 by mick moore and yes some good points .

  25. Lord_Ogli Force Ghost

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    Besides, How can the country that brought us Chicago town pizzas be all bad hmmm?
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