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If John Williams were to suddenly die

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by Mastadge, Feb 9, 2001.

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  1. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No Williams, no Star Wars. Period. He's as important as Lucas.
     
  2. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Zimmer was outstanding in Gladiator, but his other music is so-so.
     
  3. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lion King was excellent IMO
     
  4. ELEPHANT_MAN

    ELEPHANT_MAN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    why hast thou forsken him
     
  5. Captain Page

    Captain Page Jedi Master star 3

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    Argh!! Must.... not..... think.... of..... possibility..... John.... Williams.... must..... become..... immortal.....

    James Horner, Alan Silverstri, or Michael Kamen would be good choices, as wood Hans Zimmer. My vote would go to Horner. No one would be as good as Williams though, and I would just prefer to have the old music remixed.

    PS: About Hans Zimmer not writing any other good scores: What about Crimson Tide?
     
  6. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I didn't say he didn't write anything good, I just said it was so-so. Maybe a better phrasing would have been up and down.

    I agree James Horner is very very good though, would probably be a good choice.
     
  7. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Come on guys, don't be so predictable. As soon as I heard about a music forum I knew someone would start a 'What if Williams Died?' thread. :p
     
  8. legacyAccount

    legacyAccount Jedi Youngling

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    Hans Zimmer, James Horner or (this may seem totally out of left field but...) Robert W. Smith
     
  9. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    James Horner: No

    Why? Because he'd sentementalise the entire score. His scores are quite annoying and overated in my opinion.


    Danny Elfman: Yes.

    Why? Because the next two films will revolve around the Dark Side of the Force more, and with Elfman's exotic choice of instruments and style in music, he'd be the perfect choice as composer.

    David Arnold: Yes.

    Why? Because judging by his previous scores "Stargate", "Independence Day" and "Godzilla", his scores are very similar in style to John Williams.

    Jerry Goldsmith: No.

    Why? He's good but not that great, I've noticed with many of his scores, they seem to have to much synthesis.

    Alan Silvestri: No.

    Why? He would have done a great job with "Jurassic Park 3" judging from his work on "Predator 2" but sometimes he's just unoriginal and plain. He'd be a bad choice for SW.

    Hans Zimmer: Yes.

    Why? Because his scores are very artful and tasteful, he'd be a great choice.
     
  10. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Danny Elfman??? Are you insane?

    //puke
     
  11. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    Nope.

    I think he'd be an excellent choice.

    :D
     
  12. Fatboy_Roberts

    Fatboy_Roberts Jedi Youngling star 3

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    slightly dissapointed this thread even popped up.

    even more disappointed it's got the most posts.

    why can't we just say "Say williams decides to not score Episode II and III..who would you have step in?"

    I dunno..I think it woulda worked better that way.

    Peace,
    Fatboy
     
  13. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    Yeah but you gotta think of possible future circumstances.

    What if it did happen?

    Hmmmm?
     
  14. Mr. K

    Mr. K Moderator Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with Fats. Perhaps the title should be "Who would replace Williams if he were unable to score Ep.II & III?
     
  15. ArsenicMan

    ArsenicMan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    James Horner - as long as his work was along the lines of his earlier scores (ST II/III)

    Jerry Goldsmith - as long as they ban him from the synth

    Cliff Eidelman - if they ban him from the chorus (IMHO, not a good addition to RotJ or TPM)

    Joel McNeely - he'd probably do a decent job

    the guy who did the original music for X-Wing/TIE Fighter/Dark Forces - he did a pretty good job with just MIDI; I'd like to hear what he could do with a full orchestra
     
  16. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    Anyone who goes from MIDI straight to full orchestra usually don't do the best job of all.

    Look at Mark Snow for "The X-Files: Fight the Future", in the show he used complete MIDI and synth, but with the film the score was just a bit too overboard with it's bigger budget. Snow obviously hadn't had much experience with orchestra.
     
  17. Jedi Greg Maddux

    Jedi Greg Maddux Jedi Knight star 6

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    I can't imagine SW without John Williams. John Williams is getting up there in years, but I don't think we'll have to worry about Lucas getting another composer for the rest of the prequels.
     
  18. lakrisgubben

    lakrisgubben Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think that Hans Zimmer would be a great replacement... anyone heard the score to "The Rock" It`s the best ever... next to starwars...
     
  19. Grand Admiral Reese

    Grand Admiral Reese Jedi Knight star 6

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    Zimmer is okay, and he could probably pull off the Star Wars sound well. But I'd still rather not think of the idea.
     
  20. Darth Rayder

    Darth Rayder Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Certainly, Horner is not a perfect choice, but I think his "emotional" type of music would be on par for Ep II and III. Just as long as he stays away from the heavy piano crashes he seems to like so much. (Anyone who has the Deep Impact or Sneakers soundtrack knows what I'm talking about)
     
  21. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    I just think Horner's scores are a bit too clichéd and over-rated, he's too repetitive and has little creative style at all.
     
  22. s1138_

    s1138_ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    WHY WOULD YOU THINK LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!

    but if it would happen (you know it aint going to) i would say, they should just remix and edit the songs
     
  23. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The reason we say what if he died instead of what if he didn't do it, is because if Williams was still alive, fans would storm his house and force him to compose at gunpoint.

    Anyway, Silvestri or Zimmer. MacNeely would get though I'm sure and I know what you mean about Mark Snow.
     
  24. EmperorsHalberdier

    EmperorsHalberdier Jedi Youngling

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    No pianos allowed in SW soundtracks!!! Is everybody clear on that?
     
  25. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    Uh? Why not?
     
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