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If John Williams were to suddenly die

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by Mastadge, Feb 9, 2001.

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  1. Fatboy_Roberts

    Fatboy_Roberts Jedi Youngling star 3

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    No pianos?

    Please, whatever you do, try not to play "The Battle in the Snow" on the ESB soundtrack. You might hurt somebody ;)

    Seriously though, piano's just another instrument, and can be used with just as much force as any other set of instruments in an orchestra.

    Peace,
    Fatboy
     
  2. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    Leave the films silent in tribute to the greatest composer who ever lived.
    :*-(
     
  3. MaxVeers

    MaxVeers TFN FanFilms Staff, Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hans Zimmer or James Horner, in my opinion.
     
  4. Chimaera27

    Chimaera27 Jedi Youngling

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo........
     
  5. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    Does Horner mellow a bit too much on the synth sometimes?
     
  6. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No pianos? You got to be kidding me.
     
  7. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    There's a bit of piano in ESB.

    ;D
     
  8. SheetmusicLover

    SheetmusicLover Jedi Youngling

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    it could work if a good composer worked with
    Herbert Spencer the man who has orchestrated
    all Star Wars movies and worked with JW since the early 70´s i think.
     
  9. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This one's easy: James Horner
     
  10. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    After hearing The Mummy Returns soundtrack 64,000 times...


    Alan Silvestri

    :D
     
  11. TheCat

    TheCat Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Definitely NOT James horner or Hans Zimmer. The latter can't even orchestrate properly to start with, and bear in mind Williams is one of the few composers left who conducts without a click track. Not many still do that, and its the only way you'll get true emotional rubato timed perfectly with what's going on on the screen.

    There's a new guy in town called Trevor Parks, his stuff smokes anything else and he works in the same manner as Williams. He's only done smaller non-feature stuff, but i think he might be doing War of the Worlds or something like that.
     
  12. Short Round McFly

    Short Round McFly Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Hans Zimmer + Alan Silvestri + Ennio Morricone = Good enough combination for SW maybe?
     
  13. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Those guys would turn it into a The Rock type score, all action, which would sound good but just wouldn't be Star Wars/
     
  14. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu

    Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'd either go with Alan Silvestri (I liked his work on the '98 Parent Trap) or, as a darkhorse, Noburo Uematsu, the man who composes for the Final Fantasy video game series (he can use strictly symphony orchestra music).
     
  15. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I forgot about Uematsu. While on the subject of VG composers why not Koji Kondo(Mario, Zelda themes)?


    In defense of Horner. Some have accused him of stealing from his own library of works while scoring new films. If the "Braveheart", "Titanic", "American Tail", "Perfect Storm", "Enemy at the Gates", among many others are imitations then so be it! Besides, Horner can compose wildly different scores if he wants to...he has the best track record out there IMO.


    Here's the order:

    John Williams
    James Horner
    James Newton Howard
    Hans Zimmer(Prince of Egypt, Crimson Tide, Lion King, I mean cmon!)
    and
    Alan Silvestri
     
  16. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu

    Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Padawan star 4

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    BTW, there's also a piano in TPM. And, there's a synthesizer in TPM, too. There is a difference between piano and synthesizer. Piano can be considered a traditional symphony orchestra instrument.

    Off the top of my head, the piano can be heard most obviously in "Captain Panaka and the Queen's Protectors" of the original soundtrack. The synthesizer can be heard in the TPM UE, underlying the Sith chant in the scene where the Sith probe flies by before the podrace arena scene. This was previously believed to be cut music (sqscary from TPM game), but it is in the movie.
     
  17. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We're not only talking about who's the best in the business, though -- we're talking about who could best do a SW soundtrack SW-style. Horner may or may not be the best there is, but I don't think that he could do a score that fits what we think of when we think "Star Wars music."
     
  18. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Actually I think Horner can make a worthy Star Wars film. Alan Silvestri comes to mind as well.
     
  19. AmeiaSkywalker

    AmeiaSkywalker Jedi Youngling star 3

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    That would be horrible if JW died.
    I love the SW music.
     
  20. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yea, JW is inimitable.
     
  21. Hoedaack

    Hoedaack Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Michael Giacchino. If you've heard his music to the "Medal Of Honor" videogames, you'll know why. He emulates Williams perfectly.
     
  22. GasCabbie

    GasCabbie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The remaining Beatles
     
  23. GasCabbie

    GasCabbie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    in response to jamesdrax--

    synth in rotj and esb.

    ESB- Luke's vision of Vader. Audible sawtooth sounds in the mid/teble area of things

    ROTJ- Following Luke's victory over the Rancor, audible while the Rancor's keeper is weeping.

    To be honest... synths do not work well for orchestrated sound tracks in my opinion.
     
  24. The_Wampa

    The_Wampa Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Actually, I was thinking more on the lines if George Lucas die, but anyway if John Williams dies, my retarded cat dies, then I die. (I'm not being mean, I seriously have a retarded cat, he can't meow and he is old and stupid, but he is still my favorite cat)
     
  25. Erin Kenobi

    Erin Kenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't want to even think about Star Wars without JW. If he did die, I'd want them to leave the movie mostly silent, but with the old music when appropriate (the Force theme, Main Theme, etc.).
     
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