JCC If there is a God, then why is there evil and suffering?

What have I learned about you. You like crack jokes about people.

 

Link? Name of the clinic? Doctor? When did this happen?

 

found the aritcle and considering I remember the receptionsit speaking on the phone in my dream. I know this is the one and I remember it was in December of that year.

Here's the article

http://www.mediate.com/articles/conversations.cfm

 

What mushrooms did you take first? I think that disclosure is important and shows integrity on your behalf.

No I think it's adorable that you had such a vivid hallucination; tell me, why do people get a pass for 'meeting god' but labelled insane for meeting aliens?

You didn't see god, you had a vision of something you wanted to be god. I didn't see Superman either. In short, tou cannot see that which is not real.

 

When was someone labeled insane for meeting aliens?

Never heard that one.

 

lol wow I totally missed this when skimming the thread. Amazing.

 

Immerse dont skim.

 

Did you just google "abortion clinic shooting?" Did you even read that page you just linked?

Doesn't say anything about a man with a rifle being constrained... got an actual news article?

 

But nationalism produces evil for exactly the same reason religion does, Lee. It's a blind obedience to an ideal that's above reproach in the mind of the devotee, and it compels people to vanquish anything that challenges or opposes the higher ideal - some bearded jackass called "god" or, the State.

 

I don't do drugs, don't smoke don't drink. and no mushrooms were involved.

sorry but I'm done if you think I do drugs.

 

Since God doesn't exist, it is impossible for you to have seen him. Therefore, what you saw was something else. That you attribute your vision to being God is merely a byproduct of the indoctrination you underwent as a child in order to brainwash you into believing about some magical sky fairy.

 

There are other explanations for what Falcon is experiencing than doing drugs. Two are very serious and these visions should be considered symptoms to take to a doctor. I'm talking about either a brain tumor or temporal lobe epilepsy, which, by the way, Vincent Van Gogh suffered from.

 

No offense taken

I remember it happening in 93 or 94 and I remember it was in the winter in december. I don't have a clipping because I was 14 years old. My mind might be a little fuzzy on the details. I'm telling the truth.

 

I recommend telling your story to somebody, other than the church... like, try a psychologist.

For the record, I don't think you're on drugs... I think you've experienced vivid hallucinations and nightmares, and turned to somebody who would use your experience to influence you into believing something that may not be true.

How about that news article? I mean, if a man with a rifle was constrained at an abortion clinic, surely it was reported.

Where did it happen?

 

Falcon, no one doubts that you are telling the truth about what you experienced. But, when people see visions like this, they really need to be evaluated medically as there may be some serious medical issues involved, like I mentioned in my post just above.

 

You know what's more likely than drugs or mental illness? Making things up.

 

Brain tumors and temporal lobe epilepsy are not mental illnesses. They are physical illnesses.

 

Okay, I'll grant that a brain tumor is definitely the most likely explanation.

 

She said it's been this way since she was four years old... brain tumors tend to get noticed after a while. Like, I don't think she would have grown into adulthood without a brain tumor being detected, or without it, you know, killing her.

 

I'm done

There is one thing I don't do is lie. I've been told over and over again that I'm a very honest person.

 

So where was this near shooting?

 

Not if it's benign and slow-growing. Temporal lobe epilepsy is not life-threatening, it just makes life difficult.

 

Oh I agree with you Ender. My response was directed at Timmo, who seems to think that only religion is capable of having zombie adherents.

 

Or double check the carbon monoxide detectors in the house. CO is known for creating paranormal hallucinations.