Saga If you could alter one SW movie and alter the course of SW, what's the first one you'd change?

If you could alter one SW movie and alter the course of SW, what's the first one you'd change?

Going by release order, what movie would you change that would alter the future course of Star Wars? Pick the first movie you'd change in release order. Ie...if you thought ANH was perfect you might change something in ESB. If you thought the OT was perfect you might change something in TPM, etc...

To me I think the first point that Star Wars went off course was ROTJ. Changes I'd make:

• Kill Han as originally planned (sorry Han).
• Replace Ewoks with wookies.
• DO NOT make Leia Luke's sister.

 

ROTJ. Vader lives.

 

I started thinking about it but you already nailed it! Exactly the 3 you mentioned...brilliant.

Oh and if I really wanted to be selfish - A better death for Boba Fett! (yes, that old chestnut)

 

TFA:

- Stick to Lucas' story.

 

TPM

- get rid of Jar Jar Binks
- get rid of midi-chlorians
- make Qui-Gon say something different than "I didn't come here to free slaves"

(just the first three things that came to my mind)

 

Vader and Luke overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son?

 

Yes!!!!

 

In ROTS, I'd make a good amount of the Jedi survive and make them become prominent players in the Rebellion. Many of them died in such unbecoming ways in ROTS and during Order 66 that I would want to carve out more heroic deaths for people like Kit Fisto, Aayla Secura, and Plo Koon.

 

I guess nobody wants to change ANH or ESB.

How would the saga be different in Obi-Wan defeats Darth Vader (again) in ANH and Vader falls into the reactor core getting burnt up for a 2nd time? Vader survives but needs an even better suit with even more life support.

Then Obi-Wan takes Luke to Degobah in ESB and they *both* train Luke.

Then all 3 show up at Bespin. Vader's like "The force is with you young skywal...holy crap Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Luke? Crap!" Vader saves himself and turns to the light side then in ROTJ all 4 jedi (Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke) show up to take out Palpatine.

 

I think the movies are fine the way they are but I guess for "what ifs" it would been interesting to see how different Revenge of the Sith would of been if Ahsoka was in it. Also what would of happened to Luke and Leia if Padme lived and didn't die. Would they still be separated or would they grow up together? Would they both be trained to use lightsabers when they were younger?

It would of been cool to see what would of happened if Qui-Gon Jinn had not died in The Phantom Menace. How much different would things be? Would Anakin still went to the dark side?

What would of happened if Yoda or Obi-Wan was more involved in the rebel alliance and not in exile? That could of been cool to see how different the original movies would of been.

 

Speaking of this, why didn't Yoda go with Luke to Bespin? Yoda that scared of being discovered by Palp? He didn't seem to mind Luke getting discovered by Palp...

Luke and Yoda vs Vader in ESB would have a much different ending. Vader would be the one falling down the shaft.

 

It could be argued that Yoda's importance was solely that of a teacher. If he went on to outwardly get involved if the Rebels and fighting Sidious and Vader it would distract from training Luke. Not the strongest argument, but it could be argued I guess.

Also, maybe Yoda was struggling with the reality that the Jedi were destroyed under his watch as Grand Master. He may be very much in tune with the force and, of course, one of the greatest Jedi ever but I'm sure it had to bother him on some level that his colleagues were gone. This could mess with a warrior's fighting ability as the mental state is equally important to physical ability when it comes to being a good fighter or Jedi.

I know Star Wars Theory and Fact-Free and other youtubers discuss Vader's struggle with the reality of Padme being dead and him being a complete and utter traitor to everything he ever stood for. I wonder if there is any evidence that Yoda went through any similar struggles in his isolation? (IMO - he can't be completely blamed for what happened - it was a collective failure by the Jedi that led to their destruction - but it could be an understandable accusation.)

 

Thanks.

And I just thought of a better death for Boba Fett...

Boba survives the Jabba battle but then tracks their ships after. Boba ends up following Luke to Degobah. After Yoda dies, Luke is talking to Obi-Wan's force ghost but the convo is interrupted by Boba flying in on his jet back and firing blaster shots. Luke ignites his saber and a battle ensues. During the battle Luke's lightsaber hits Boba's jet pack and he spirals into the swamp. Boba uses his wrist rope thing to attach to a tree and pull himself out of the swamp but just as he is coming out of the swamp the swamp monster arises (the one that swallowed R2 in ESB) and bites off Boba's legs. Luke then uses his light saber to mercy kill Boba.

 

Hmmm I forgot about the PT...

I would start with TPM. Get rid of Jar Jar... Keep the exact aesthetic of the OT... Make Anakin older... Keep Maul for the trilogy!

 

Have the plot of TPM set during the Clone Wars.

 

Great topic!

I would also have preferred to keep Darth Maul throughout the PT as the main Sith Villain, basically replacing Dooku as Sidious' apprentice. And Dooku would just be the Separatist leader-nothing more. Anakin would kill Maul, and become Sidious' apprentice at the end of Episode II (which took place during the early days of the Clone Wars). Anakin faces down Obi-Wan in ROTS and is put in the suit about 2/3rds of the way in, and the climax is Darth Vader hunting down the Jedi, and the rest of the film focuses on Obi-Wan, Yoda, and perhaps a couple others trying to escape and going into hiding and all that. Kind of similar to what we see in the end of Rogue One, as the rebels are trying to escape from Vader and the Empire there, only a bit more drawn out.

I'd have had Darth Vader actually kill Padme, rather than just a choke and release, and that is what seals the deal with him becoming a Sith, as he blames the Jedi for how all of it played out.


I also thought of a different possible path: Darth Vader is never gravely injured-beyond losing a limb or something-and never needed the mechanical suit. Then the rest of the saga involves Darth Vader, at full power and no limitation-realizing his full potential as a Sith, ultimately becoming almost unstoppable-until Luke, who became a fully trained Jedi in the "10 years" that passed between ESB and ROTJ finally defeating him-at great cost (deaths, lost limbs and the like).

But I'm also happy with how it actually played out!

 

Revenge of the Sith:

Padme doesn't die of a stupid broken heart. She lives and raises both Luke and Leia in secret. Note-I don't think she'd part from either one.

The Empire Strikes Back:

Luke joins Vader at the end and must be redeemed in Return of the Jedi.

 

"As you know, our blockade is perfectly leg-"
"Bull****"
"What?"
"Captain, turn around. Let's report this obviously illegal activity to the representative senator from Naboo. He can do something in the Senate. What's his name? Palpadeen or something?"

 

Like in the Defenestrations of Prague? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague

Can I still change my vote (post # 6)?

ROTS:

- provide Anakin with more (and better) reasons why he can't return to the Jedi Order and instead decides to join Palpatine
- erase the allusions to "Anakin Childkiller"

 

Episode VII:
Stick to George Lucas´s Episodes VII, VIII and IX Story and keep Lucas as creative consultant.

 

I've always wondered what would've happened if Anakin stood by and simply let Mace Windu kill Palpatine. I've always had imaginations of Anakin making the right choice, and ultimately staying with the Jedi Order-or even leaving the Order, on amicable terms-and going away, helping Padme raise his kids, being a happy family etc. Maybe also occasionally helping the Jedi clean up the galaxy in those days after the end of the Clone Wars and the galaxy eventually returning to peace (although it would be a long road to that point), and Anakin and his family all live happily ever after, with Obi-Wan frequently visiting them as an old friend.


But then we would only get an Episodes I-III of course, cos the story would end there with that happy ending. That's the one thing that we're always missing in SW, a happy ending. Cos the story is always ongoing. Even in certain episodes where all seems well, there's always that door left just open, for the struggle to continue. The only episode that really vaguely resembles a true "happy ending" is ROTJ, for obvious reasons. But now, reading Aftermath and the other things we know about the canon and continuation of the saga, that happy ending seems less final, and more simply a "good for now" kind of thing. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of an ongoing saga, but a wonderfully done happy ending has always been a big thing for me with movies.

 

TPM - Change the whole movie.