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Full Series If you could go back in a time machine and fix anything in TCW what would you fix?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Seerow, Nov 16, 2012.

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  1. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please, no posts about erasing TCW or stopping it from existing or canceling the show.

    I'll start with the episode that needs fixing most of all "Shadow Warrior"

    -Fix chronological order
    -Grievous does not try to ally with Gungans, his plan makes sense
    -No switcheroo thing
    -No witch doctor.
    -Hell lets just do a flat sneak attack and have a big old fight
    -If Grievous must fight Gungans make sure it takes hundreds to pull him down.
    -Extend episode, fix pacing issues. More time for the powering down of the army to be shown and make sense
    -Do something with the trade for Anakin and Grievous. Mount a rescue to take place over remaining episodes
    -Padme gets in some sort of trouble at end of arc. Explains to clone like Rex how she was going to trade monster who kills many clones for Anakin.
     
  2. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like your changes.


    Here are mine for the flawed Mon Calamari arc.

    - add Senator Tikkes as the main villain
    - have no Dooku cause he sucks and is boring
    - make him be like the Quarren "Patrick Dempsey from Transformers Dark of the Moon" aka a bad guy who betrays his own kind for profit and a better place in the CIS power house
    - make Riff Tamson just the hired help
    - give Kit Fisto a lot more to do like be the main Jedi on Mon Calamari
    - have Ackbar but give him more to do
    - have no Prince or king BS
    - keep Meena Tills and make her the leader of the Mon Calamari council
    - remove Anakin and Padme cause they were just useless and were phoned in
    - remove the infinitely stupid plot about the crown and make it about species issues (especially if Onderon does the same exact story)
    - remove Jar Jar and the Gungans and have a cooler aquatic race come to help - the Selkath for instance
    - make Nossor Ri as Tikkes's aide and then in the end Nossor Ri rises up to Tikkes and ousts him as a traitor to his people having an awesome speech about equality
    - Riff Tamson is killed in the process but is not made the climax of the thing
    - the Quarren learning that Tikkes betrayed him at the expense of the CIS taking over the planet and they turn on the CIS forces and help the Mon Calamari
    - peace between Nossor Ri and Meena Tills's council is made

    I think it would have been so much better this way than the lame way it was done in Season Four.
     
  3. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Dooku Captured

    A Sith Lord who defeated Anakin and Obi-Wan and held his own against Yoda shouldn't be in the position to be captured by a group of pirates.
     
  4. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'll continue with the S3 Mandalorian episodes. To be quite frank, they don't hold a candle to the S2 Mandalorian episodes in my view. The S2 episodes dealt with complex, relevant themes such as pacifism, terrorism, isolationism and nationalism. The S3 episodes only hinted at the problems caused by isolationism and the fragility of the Mandalorian state, but largely focused on incredibly simple-minded messages about how corruption is bad. Perhaps I expect too much from the audience when I assume that they appreciate what's so bad about bribing government officials, but whatever. One shouldn't allow this to dominate a return to Mandalore after the precedent set in S2. A new arc set on Naboo or Alderaan maybe, but in a setting of a war between a corporatist-controlled Confederacy and a militant central government, I'd raise the stakes in a corruption story beyond just a few kids getting sick from defective drinks. My idea of a corruption story would be Nute Gunray buying a gas giant and turning it into a star to harvest the energy with a Dyson sphere, resulting in major destruction elsewhere in the star system... for example.

    My altered S3 Mandalore duology wouldn't be a story primarily about corruption, but about the home front in a struggle over nationalism. For many countries, national identity and geopolitical alignment are pretty big deals. They profoundly changed various nations' destinies. Reading up on the struggles between pro-U.S., pro-Soviet, nationalist, reactionary, radical and other factions in various countries during the Cold War can provide inspiration. Here in the UK, the nuances between British nationalism, pan-Europeanism and trans-Atlanticism (all dynamically related to domestic political factions such as socialism, liberalism, conservatism, fascism, sub-nationalism, etc.) affected and still affect the country's geopolitical reality. I'd make the Mandalorian episodes reflect this, albeit somewhat simplified.

    Here are the changes:

    - The smugglers are being drawn to Mandalore by and are working for Almec, who has intentions beyond just grabbing power for power's sake. The docker who tries to stop them gets killed by an armoured sniper working for Almec. They inject poison into the water supply and fulfil Almec's goal of causing mass panic.

    - Padme arrives on Mandalore and doesn't witness some puny council meeting in Satine's throneroom. She witnesses a rhetorical battle in the Mandalorian legislature between pacifists and militarists; isolationists, pro-Loyalists and pro-Separatists. Legislators hail from all across Mandalorian space, not just the homeworld and capital. The pacifists have been losing ground recently to the militarists, who make the case that to deal with the Death Watch they need to fight fire with fire. Satine is adamantly pacifist, alongside an ageing political faction consisting of fellow Mandalorian Civil War survivors, and tries her hardest to consolidate power under her directly now that the legislature turns against them. Almec is at the head of the existing coalition government and has been making Satine seem like more of an autocrat, forcing her to veto bills proposed by the militarist backbenchers (presented as pan-coalition moderate legislation) while Almec retains his facade of reasonableness and moderation. Padme points this manoeuvre out to Satine, who desperately needs Almec's (apparently pro-pacifist) support and doesn't take kindly to some aruetyc Naboo telling her how to do her job. In the meeting which Padme observes, one of the legislators pulls out a gun and is tackled to the floor by Almec's new corps of paramilitary troopers.

    - Almec's secret police have more to mark them out than a simple paintjob. They wear bulkier armour and T-visor helmets that conceal their faces. They more closely resemble the DW commandos and Jango Fett, exuding cool menace in true Mandalorian style.

    - The poisoned water is traced to the warehouse and a firefight ensues. However, these aren't just smugglers taking fire from Padme and the security forces. Some of the men they fight are wearing full Death Watch armour. When the dust settles, it turns out that the men beneath the helmets are some of Satine's AWOL personal guards, none of whom had any known sympathies with Death Watch. Padme surmises that this was a setup to make Satine seem like she's losing control, but Satine's response to this assessment is to order the accompanying police to burn down the warehouse, including the turncoat guards' remains. They don't understand why she would do this, but they realise very quickly that Satine is trying to hide something. The apparent involvement of Death Watch becomes common knowledge.

    - Almec's goal is to overthrow Satine and re-militarise Mandalore. While Pre Vizsla and DW want to see Mandalore return to a blood-drenched past, Almec is closer to a modern Western militarist than a Nazi. He wants Mandalore to exert its influence with armed strength and, critically, form a united front with the Republic against the CIS. A humanocentric bigot, a traditionalist and a sabre-rattling militarist, Almec has been in contact with Halle Burtoni, whom Padme is surprised to bump into in the corridors of the Mandalorian parliament. She knows Satine will not listen to her, so she contacts the Jedi Order and asks them to send someone to investigate what is going on on Mandalore, leading to Ahsoka being sent in for the next episode.

    - Korkie Kryze is an older teen with a keen interest in Mandalore's ancient history. He's a typical Mandalorian nationalist, holding the view held by the majority of the youth that the current pacifist direction is not working for them. The Academy is altered so as to focus more on his split loyalties between his aunt and his deeply held views. His friends are all patriotic citizens but all three are nationalists. Korkie has to actively go out of his way to defend Satine to his fellow students.

    - Almec's plot is uncovered (albeit not by ridiculous hologram-enhancing technology), but Satine is left in disgrace after she dissolves the coalition government and all the police force in anger. Korkie, not sympathising with Almec over his aunt after the climax, is accused by Satine of doing just that when he expresses concern that she is going too far. He leaves Mandalore and joins Death Watch, playing a minor role in future episodes.
     
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