IF you found proof the Potentium was wrong...

How would you react? What would you say?

 

Hey, this proof is just like the movies! Oh wait, it is the movies!

 

I'd accept it and move on. They're just books based on kid's movies, after all.

 

Kids' movies? Is this why the last one was PG-13?

 

Please stay on topic. I did this for a reason.

By proof, I mean proof that would even convince the people who believe the Potentium doesn't conflict with the movies to believe it's wrong.

 

I would yawn and go look at the proof that Palpatine is Sidious or something more debatable like that. Y'know, something we didn't already know.

 

Me, I'd laugh, long and hard... (not that what AWJ said isnt truth in itself)

 

I would say... hmmm, what *did* I say back when I finished reading Traitor and then actually looked at the rest of Star Wars on a whole...?

I would be (was, like many here I would suspect) completely unsurprised and say something along the lines of "Well, duh!"

(By the way, isn't the Potentium wrong by default, as it has the inability to declare itself 'right,' as distinctions between right and wrong 'don't exist?' )

 

Say, "Yes, and...?", seeing as how it wouldn't really be news.

Different uses of "right" and "wrong". One is used in an ethical sense, and the other in a factual sense.

 

Good point.

However, wouldn't that still imply a lack of abillity/drive to actually adopt it over the traditional view of the force, since it can't declare itself morally 'right' to replace the current system with itself? (Not that I think it would be morally right to continue using a system of viewing the Force if it was found to be factually wrong... I'm just saying, based on the Potentium's logic...)

 

say 'I KNEW IT!' and move on.

 

It would take some pretty miraculous proof to make me believe the Potentium and similarly derived force theories are totally fallacious. I?ve yet to come across any definitive in universe proof that a person?s actions are anything other than their actions. The force may coerce or amplify what would otherwise be a pin drop, but without an individual?s intent the dark side cannot be.

In other words, I can?t answer the question posed here until such proof is readily available.

They're just books based on kid's movies, after all.

If I were the emoticon type, I?d definitely bust out that eye-rolling guy about now.

 

Hence the 'IF' in capital letters...

 

Well, considering there's already proof that the Potentium is wrong, I'm not sure what everyone would get so excited about to begin with.

 

That's a distortion of the understanding of the dark side. It's their actions, but their actions dictate which well they're drawing from, as well as what exactly is doing the "coercing" and "amplifying."

 

Short of an out-of-universe declaration, the Potentium and related philosophies really can't be proven wrong.

 

*dances* But I have the proof that its wrong, but I cant say anything til the 30th.

 

I read this "proof," and I don't at all see what everyone's getting worked up over. It's hardly anything substantial.

 

What does this "proof" relate to?

Anyway, I'd say the prequel assertions that the dark side is clouding everything and reducing the Jedi's ability to use the Force stands out pretty strongly against the "no dark side" thing.

 

A summary of Betrayal. Can't be discussed even in the relevant thread due to new board policies.

Anyway, I'd say read the book firsthand before making any wild declarations.

 

It's a good thing, then, that there's already an out-of-universe declaration in the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook--stating that the Potentium is a inherently wrong philosophy which will inevitably lead it's practicioners to the Dark Side of the Force.

 

It never is. Just like DN. A spoiler of behavior that people want to believe proves something, something that reinforces their beliefs, but no out-and-out proof.

On topic, I'd shrug and move on.

 

I don´t personally support Potentium, but the fact that if person X, a follower of Potentium, falls to the Dark Side, it doesn´t mean that Potentium is wrong. And if every known follower of Potentium falls, that too doesn´t make it totally impossible for somebody being able to follow Potentium without falling. Very unlikely isn´t the same as impossible. And all who are powerful in the Force and use much Force powers tend to fall if they continue doing this for a long time, we have been told - among other places, in HoT... So perhaps all views of the Force lead powerful Force users to fall to the Dark Side - at least for a time. Even Yoda hinted to this kind of experience in his past.

 

I'd be relieved to be rid of the moral relativism.