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PT If you were doing a fan edit of the PT...

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by KilroyMcFadden, Dec 16, 2012.

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  1. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    With the final goal of fitting it into about 2 hours, which single scene would be the number one thing you cut? Which single scene would the number one thing you consider the most holy of holies and not touch?
     
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  2. Order66Survivor

    Order66Survivor Jedi Knight star 1

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    GREAT question


    To cut : the Anakin-Padme Naboo scene in the lounge area where they decide they can't be together.

    Poor Hayden C probably never envisioned having to do a scene like that in Star Wars.

    To keep:Gosh this is tough.

    I'd have to go with the initial meeting of the Council when Qui-Gon brings Anakin before Yoda, Mace and the masters.

    "more to say, have you?"

    Jake Lloyd really did well in this scene. First he nails the trivia but once the Jedi Masters bring up Shmi he's like "uhhhh I don't think we're gonna get along".
     
  3. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    cut: Tion Medon: it was such a bizzare unneeded scene

    keep: Obi-wan and Dooku meet. Such a great scene
     
  4. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    If I were to do a fan edit of the PT, I would just try to colour correct AotC and put back the shots after Yoda duels Dooku in their original order. I wouldn't remove anything.
     
  5. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I agree. I also would've added Padme's family scenes to AOTC and Rebellion scenes in ROTS.
     
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  6. Vialco

    Vialco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The scene where Dooku drops the tower on Anakin and Obi-Wan and then stops on the Solar Sailer's ramp to look back at Yoda seems to break the flow.

    I would either cut it out or edit it so Dooku's seen entering the ship. For him to just stand there and look back is a distraction from the danger Anakin and Obi-Wan are in and Yoda's decision to save their lives and let Dooku escape.

    The scene should just be Dooku crushing the tower and disengaging. Yoda turns to stop the tower from falling on the Jedi and halts it just centimeters away. The thing is thrown aside and Dooku's ship leaves the hangar.

    The Sith Lord's distraction forces Yoda to choose between finishing the battle or saving two lives. Yoda chooses and Dooku uses that moment to run and continue the war.

    He does not stop at the hatchway and look back at Yoda. Count Dooku should not be engaging in such frivolous activities.
     
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  7. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Master star 5

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    This is so tough (I like the PT), but I guess the first thing I'd cut would be the pod race and all events surrounding it.

    If the goal is 2 hours, TPM is going to have to be the most cut

    The must-keep is even tougher. Part of me would love to keep most of Vader's actions; the temple massacre, the Mustafar massacre and MOST of the duel with Kenobi because it's the most dramatic part in the PT. Part of me agrees with Adywan regarding the Vader reveal being held back until ESB though. It's tricky.

    It depends on what story you want to tell. You could take the whole saga and do a 20 episode Lost-style flashback series if you wanted! Start at the scene in ESB with Vader revealing his identity to Luke and go nuts telling one part of the story at a time.
     
  8. Order66Survivor

    Order66Survivor Jedi Knight star 1

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    UGH how could I forget the pod racing??!?!?!?! wipe it out, all of it!

    TPM really picks up to me when they return to Coruscant
     
  9. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    I never thought about editing in such a way as to restore the Vader reveal, that really opens up the possibilities.
     
  10. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Master star 5

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    Here's Adywan's plan, lots of food for thought: http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/ptr-facts/

    Bear in mind how long he takes do do the amazing stuff he does, he'll probably not release that until 2030 or so!
     
  11. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    Thanks for sharing that link. That's the most exciting SW news since 1996!
     
  12. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sounds like more stupidity. Change the color of Mace's lightsaber, WT*?
     
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  13. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I agree. Why doesn't this guy write, direct, produce his own movie and then he can make whatever changes to it he wants. Oh, wait...
     
  14. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    Because he has both the ability and love for SW to make a version he will enjoy more? Just spitballing here.
     
  15. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think most people will agree it's alot easier to rip somelses work apart than it is to create something of your own. I'm just spitballing here though.
     
  16. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    You view a fan edit as a criticism?
     
  17. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    No. There's quite a big difference between giving a critical review of something and changing somone elses work because it wasn't what you envisioned.
     
  18. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    What I think you are saying is that fan edits are the equivalant of ripping someone elses work.
     
  19. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Pretty much. I just don't respect people who take someone elses work that they've spent years creating, make changes to the parts they personally don't like, and then try to pass it off as some brilliant piece of art. It takes little to no creativity and 99.99% of the time they just make it worse.
     
  20. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    So, whats the first scene you would throw out if you were doing your own fan edit?
     
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  21. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I can have my edit any time I want. It's called the skip button ;)
     
  22. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    While there are certainly scenes in the PT that work better for me than others, I would never make a fan edit. They're not my movies and thus I find it pointless. Overall the PT works for me just as much as the OT does. They're great movies made by great filmmakers (George Lucas and everyone else involved in the films).
     
  23. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Master star 5

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    It's like doing a remix or cover of a song. If you think fan edits are being 'passed off' as anything, you're missing the point.

    Not even Lucas is upset by them!

    My favourite Star Wars fanedits are Adywan's obsessive masterpiece the ANH Special Edition Revisited, closely followed by the Grindhouse version of ANH, followed by the Phantom Edit. I really need to see more; the 30s serial PT looks fun.
     
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  24. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    If Adywan is able to deliver on the amazing improvments he claims he is making, he is my new OCD hero!
     
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