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Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Gene Roddenberry was like a huge sex pervert apparently. You had Kirk macking on some scantily clad green alien girl in every episode, all kinds of weird sex aliens on TNG, and Jeri Ryan. Star Wars is pretty sexless in comparison, until you get to Leia in ROTJ.
     
  2. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Oh sure, but none of that was really all that "sexy" more "wtf" [face_dunno]
     
  3. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well sexy meaning "involving or related to sex." :p

    I remember reading about people complaining about how much skin was in the JJ Abrams movies and being confused because their sex factor is actually turned way down from the old show.
     
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  4. Cynical_Ben

    Cynical_Ben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, considering that in Star Trek's original series, the standard bridge uniform for anyone of the female persuasion was a miniskirt and leggings, and pretty much everything else was skimpier than that, the JJ films are actually pretty tame by comparison.
     
  5. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  6. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    She seems like she has a good head on her shoulders.

    "Across 100 top-grossing films of 2012, only 10.8% of speaking characters were Black, 4.2% were Hispanic, 5% were Asian, and 3.6% were from other (or mixed race) ethnicities. Just over three-quarters of all speaking characters are White (76.3%). "

    This I find disturbing but not surprising.
     
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  7. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    That part actually understates her case a lot--76% white roles compared to 72% white population in the US--because that includes all speaking roles and makes no distinction between Leading Man and Sassy Cab Driver.
     
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  8. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Hopefully 2014 changes the percentages around slightly if at all
     
  9. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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  10. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    [​IMG][​IMG]
    Art by shorelle
     
  11. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Wouldn't the last line be "Like my mother before me ?" :p
     
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  12. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    I am not certain both pics are part of the same continuity
     
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  13. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh, the art is well done. I would like to this as an infinities tale
     
  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    ahahaha, the boy king of Naboo.
     
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  15. kecen

    kecen Jedi Master star 4

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    I follow this artist on twitter! I reblog her art.
    My icon is actually genderswapped Star Wars with two characters I really wish were includable in "Galactic Women's Day" :p
    How interesting would it have been to have one of big bads have the same design but have a different gender identity between the audioreceptors? Or any of the major heroes, for that matter. It would solve 90% of complaints levelled towards female characters in Star Wars. I really dislike overly sexualized genderswaps that completely change the personality to be more girly so I do things like imagine microseries Grievous with a woman's voice b/c then what a babe.
     
  16. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    I have actually been thinking about asking were you got your icon from; so were is your icon from?
    fully agree on this
     
  17. kecen

    kecen Jedi Master star 4

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    Gamiel: I drew my icon myself. Here's the fullsize.
    It's my contribution to a Japanese meme. I think relations between the alternate versions of these characters would be more amicable than canon.
     
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  18. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hey, sometimes Sassy Cab Driver is the lead role.


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  19. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Now if only it were remotely as good a movie as the french original. [face_plain]
     
  20. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I so wish Qui-Gon had been female.
     
  21. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I can't help but see these two statements as mildly contradictory.
     
  22. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    I still wish Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were actually one person. [face_dunno]Though female Luke (as planed way back when) would have been all kinds of awesome.
     
  23. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  24. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Irish people look like green cyclops ???
     
  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    :rolleyes: :oops: [face_sigh]