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Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Sep 2, 2012.

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  1. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Interview with Kirkman on Invincible 110:
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52084

    I have to admit to a certain scepticism here because, for me, superhero comics trying to cover real-life issues tend to fail and fail badly. Often "realism" = more blood, violence, darkness and nastiness.
     
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  2. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Ayup.
     
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  3. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    I think that's why Asto City works so well: It doesn't ask 'what would superheroes be like in real life?' but 'how would life be in a world of superheroes?'.
     
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  4. Skaddix

    Skaddix Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    A critical distinction
     
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  5. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    I'd be interested to see at least one Star Wars novel or other substantive work (beyond, say, a short story or one-shot comic) where the main protagonist is non-Human. Sure there are a lot of side or second-tier heroic characters in the saga and Expanded Universe, but I personally don't know of any major stories or storylines that feature an "alien" as the central character. About the closest I can reckon to where a non-Human is on or close to equal footing—and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong—is the titular character in Darth Plagueis, and that's if you're into villain protagonists.
     
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  6. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Mercy Kill.
     
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  7. Cynical_Ben

    Cynical_Ben Force Ghost star 4

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    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Mechalich

    Mechalich Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Also, depending on how you define 'alien' huge chunks of TCW feature an alien protagonist both in the form of Ahsoka Tano, Cad Bane, and Asajj Ventress. Heck, even Jar Jar anchors a couple of episodes.
     
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  9. Goodwood

    Goodwood Jedi Master star 5

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    Ah, how could I have forgot Mercy Kill?

    It was very, very enjoyable read, particularly with Piggy as the main character. If anything had to be Aaron Allston's swan song, this novel definitely fits the bill.

    That aside...do not speak to me of TCW... :mad:
     
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  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Allston also briefly gave us a Twi'lek point of view, with their cultural aversion to one leg hopping maniacs...

    Also Gotals too.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
    GrandAdmiralJello , Apr 14, 2014
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  11. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Breaking news on the Wookieepedia topic: Abel has brought it to my attention that there is a reference in Traitor to Jacen's "pubis". Someone get on that, huh?
     
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  12. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Man, if only they were running that Darth Who? contest now....
     
    Ulicus , Apr 14, 2014
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  13. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    _Catherine_, Apr 14, 2014
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  14. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    This is crucial Star Wars information, people.
     
    CooperTFN, Apr 14, 2014
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  15. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Sad.
     
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  16. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Reveen, Apr 14, 2014
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  17. patchworkz7

    patchworkz7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Does it say what's between the man's legs? I don't think we can count testes as canonical...it could be anything up there.

    (note: nsfw for language)
     
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  18. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, no, no. This is the correct video:

     
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  19. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We have some Ackbar POV chapters from Stackpole and Allston, which were the first of their kind, IIRC, for that character and the Mon Cal species in general. Great stuff and I wish we saw more of it.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  20. TrakNar

    TrakNar Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    *coughTalesoftheBountyHunterscough*

    *coughportionsoftheBountyHunterWarscough*

    Goodness, I must be coming down with something...
     
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  21. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Though wasn't the original question about novel-length works (as opposed to short stories of the Tales of the [FILL IN THE BLANK] variety—which are incidentally some of my favorite things in all SW literature)? Quoth Goodwood:

    But yes, portions of the Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy would indeed count.
     
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  22. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    If you're recommending BHW to people, you're definitely coming down with something.
     
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  23. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, but citing them as an example of novel-length SW works with non-Human protagonists isn't necessarily the same as recommending them, is it? Which may be part of the point: the SW literary universe doesn't just need more non-Human protagonists of substantial works, it also needs better substantial works featuring non-Human protagonists! :)
     
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  24. TrakNar

    TrakNar Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What about comics? Portions of Yavin Vassilika have a non-human POV. That's one of my absolute favorites, too.
     
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  25. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Though would that count under his category of a "one-shot" instead? Or is a one-shot technically shorter still? 'Fraid I'm not totally up on comics lingo.

    But yes, not to be a copycat or anything, but Yavin Vassilika is one of my personal favorites too. :)
     
    Findswoman , Apr 15, 2014
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