Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

Completely agree, AFS. If she doesn't win, she shouldn't be the one that gets made, and it's insulting to assume that she couldn't win on her own if they do that (plus a bit insulting to the winner, for not making it, no matter if it's Revan or that Gamorrean Guard). As for why Sabine, it's because she received enough nominations to get into the poll, and Hera apparently didn't. It's disappointing for sure (I like Hera a little better, too), but not entirely surprising. As an "action" figure, I guess Sabine works a little better.

 

The twist here is that Revan will be part of nucanon, but also a woman.

 

I never said my fandom of Revan was based on him being a man.

 

Lucasfilm is just a bunch of fans with jobs, anyway.

I'm just happy that, unlike certain other series' *cough*GameofThrones*cough* that have fans in charge, Filoni and Pablo and such actually understand what makes the source material great.

 

Considering the beauty of The World of Ice and Fire, and LFL's apparent disinterest in producing anything like The Jedi Path or The Essential Atlas, I'll have to disagree with you on that.

 

I'm not talking about ASOIAF tie-in books, I'm talking about GoT. Did you see season five?

 

You mean that season of that show that was totally fine in the eyes of macro-viewers and totally loathed in the eyes of micro-viewers?

"When you watch the Game of Thrones, you win... or you get too obsessed and put yourself in a position where you could never win. Also, eventually, you'll die."

 

Ugh, no. I'm only interested in ASOIAF.

But as far as Star Wars is concerned, the fans that actually understood what makes the source material great aren't in charge - otherwise Dan, Jason, Abel and James would be on Storygroup. Instead, we have the guy who hates fans, and the guy who was saying "Another Death Star plans story? Sure, no problem!".

 

It is the one with the incest, lots of killing and betrayal, death of beloved character and plot twists that give you whiplash?

 

I'm referring mostly to Filoni and Pablo. And I've met them in person and heard them talk about it - they really do get it.

As opposed to GoT's showrunners, who think that substituting Sansa Stark for Jeyne Pool is no problem at all.

 

And I'm not even talking about background lore fleshing, I'm talking about actual storytelling. And if I'm comparing GoT as an interpretation of ASOIAF to Rebels as an interpretation of Star Wars, it's obvious which set of fans actually understand the source material. Yes, one is an adaptation and one is a standalone story, but the choices that each of them make storytelling-wise say a lot. (A lot good in Rebels' case, and a lot bad in GoT's case)

 

I'm guessing that was already on the plate before the changeover - especially since it's one of the forbidden "Legacy" books.

Storytelling should always be the priority for the novels, TV shows and movies. It's the support material that's lacking, and we know why - they're terrified of saying anything for fear of limiting any future storytelling. They've gone from one extreme to another, it seems. I mean, wouldn't it be great from their perspective to have FFG being their WEG? But we know that will never happen. (From a purely selfish standpoint, of course, I hope they only do Legacy until the end of time, as long as they continue to make stuff like Mask of the Pirate Queen.)

But I digress - we're wandering afield from the thread topic.

 

Indeed, which is also why the "Legends" business happened, because they are terrified to follow anything that isn't film or television, even books and comics directly tied to the films like LoE and SotE, again out of fear of limiting any future storytelling.

 

Oh, look, a thread for this.

*slowly leans back in chair*

 

I have no problem with this.

 

One of us, one of us

 

I finally got around to searching for his comment, and I'm a little disappointed. Not in Filoni; it's not his fault. I'm just miffed that we got to this point.

This is the tweet in question for those who haven't read it: https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/618105138746540032

How did it get to the point we're voting whether or not to make action figures for the lead female characters in a show? Back in my day we had Pink and Yellow Power Ranger toys up the wazoo and nobody batted an eye. I had their pogs, I had their posters, I had their little transformer ripoffs. I got one of those giant supermarket balloons of the Yellow Ranger at a birthday. These things were not questioned. And Power Rangers was not Disney (at the time) -- Disney has enough money to do circles around them. They can make any characters they want. Voting for figures used to be for obscure movie characters like Ody Mandrell or a new Muftak or EU ones like Talon Karrde. It wasn't for the main lead of a major Disney show!!!

WTF people WTF.

 

Yeah, I'm a little mystified by this whole thing as well. I don't understand why they don't have a figure for each of the ghost crew characters, their are only six of them. When I was a kid their were like several hundred gi joe action figures.

 

Right, I know I'm not up to speed with the toys, but I do recall reading how it was hard to find Hera figures and that seems strange.