Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

I mean I don't care about the "dilemma" angle, really, I just think human-twi'lek hybrids are dumb.

 

Not that I meant to imply you can't be happy without children... or a lover... or anything.
But yeah, I think that alien species being able to interbreed so easily is highly implausible.

 

Though, to be fair, most SW aliens -- the humanoids, in particular -- are highly implausible. When it comes down to it, twi'leks are human beings in hats.

 

Yes, definitely. Then again, I'd gladly campaign for more Star Wars aliens that are truly alien. But the chances of ever seeing a Sljee on screen are low.

 

"Near humans" should be able to breed with humans just fine, but yeah, Twileks shouldn't be able to. They have a completely different brain structure for god's sake! When it comes to the whole universal humanoid form thing I have a headcanon: Simply put, all the humanoid races were artificially created by the Rakatans; Slaves ingeneered to resemble their creators. Just like in real life, how the SW species were created by GL to resemble humans.

 

Yub. The mere fact that part of a Twi'lek's brain is located in their lekku is pretty telling... or maybe that's a Legends-only factoid?
After all, in the Rogue One novel, Cassian catches a Tw'ilek member of the Partisans by his head-tails and tosses him against a wall. If the lekku are the same as in Legends, it would not only have hurt that guy, but I doubt he would have been able to answer Cassian's question immediately thereafter.

 

I don't think that that idea has been confirmed in any nu-canon source, well none that I've seen or read.

And if you're expecting scientific accuracy in SW, then you've come to the wrong franchise. It's space-fantasy.

 

GET OUT OF MY DIVERSITY THREAD

 

Whether Star Wars is sci-fi or fantasy, I'll say it depends on the writer.

 

Yeah -- I like a little sci-fi accuracy. A lot of stories people count as hardcore "sci-fi" have mystical Force-type mumbo-jumbo. I dunno why Star Wars fans keep trying to enforce the fantasy over the scifi, especially when you have SW appear in real science shows today discussing the things SW has that we've discovered or invented since it began (twin suns... artificial limbs... holograms...etc).

I think they just hate Trek.

BTW if this was the old EU, no doubt we'd eventually get an explanation for the human/twi-lek hybrids in the way of "well a long time ago... Celestials..."

 

I think the main reason it's worth telling people that Star Wars is space fantasy is because that is very much a part of it, and ignoring that can lead to some questionable storytelling decisions and silly retcons. (Screw you, Celestials.)

 

You never read the 2001 series, did you?

 

Sure I did. That's got nothing to do with hating the Celestials. They were a lazy and boring cop-out 90 percent of the time.

 

Sorry -- what I meant was: Arthur C. Clarke's books, especially 2001 (but even Rama and some of the others) are often based on hocus-pocus-type aliens running things with essentially magic that the author never explains. He even goes so far to call them supernatural powers. Yet he's one of the top sci-fi authors, even if arguably he's using Force-type magic to explain everything.

And yeah... Celestials. And apes.

 

Another reason why people don't like to call Star Wars science-fiction is because the general population usually goes "science-fiction? I don't like hearing about all that technical stuff" so then people answer that Star Wars is more space fantasy... which makes it more appealing to people. More like getting around a negative instinct most people have to science-fiction, deserved or not.

 

Old Canon had tons had non human mandos even. Old eu had the original mando as non human, the taung and the later mandos as just continuing their culture After.the taung died out.

We even had these guys.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080515174352/starwars/images/5/53/Goot_and_Bobb.jpg

 

u wot m8.

The general population makes no distinction between science fiction and space fantasy. The only time it ever comes up is when a casual calls SW sci-fi and a nerd says "AHEM, NO."

Correctly, might I add, because SW isn't science fiction. So there. The technology is nothing more than window dressing. The entire saga can be transplanted into a medieval/renaissance fantasy Europe rip-off with city states and airships and you don't have to change anything about it except swap out the word "galaxy" for "world".

There's room for sci-fi stories in the franchise, though, of course.

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I'm not sure what this has to do with diversity but Coop told me to get out so I don't feel any obligation to get things back on track.

 

No, simply no. Wilson claims its just a mis translation from arabic into indonesian when groups like, AlQaeda, Hamas and and Hezbollah who speak Arabic natively have been quoting the same verse for decades and they are not meaning do not take jews and christians as your lawyers. Bin laden, a native of Saudi arabia who grew whose mother tongue is arabic used it multiple times, including using it to justify war on the USA and the Saudi government because he believed that US troops being stationed in Saudi Arabia violated this very passage in the koran.

The comic has kitty pyrde(a jewish character) head blocking off the word jewerly on a so it only reads jew on a storefront right next to the storefronts where some of the references are.

 

No it's a real thing, I know from personal experience.

And many sci-fi classics, like 2001 and Dune, are just as or even more "space fantasy" than Star Wars. With mysterious mystical aliens being behind everything, or magic drugs that allow people to replace hyperdrives and droids, etc. So many sci-fi classics could also be said to be fantasy.

But yeah... this is about diversity of... um... fictional universes!

 

Everyone has an anecdote.

I guarantee you that if you did a poll of the general population and asked them to name "a sci-fi movie" over half the respondents would say "Star Wars".

 

Sci-fi at least tries to adhere to some level of basic scientific accuracy/principles and/or explain the tech (see Star Trek for the biggest example of that). SW usually doesn't concern itself much with either of those things.

Also the space-wizards, mystical Force, blatant mythological callbacks/homages, etc. It's more akin to LOTR than ST. And in this case, I doubt that many people watching TCW spent much time wondering about the human/Twi'lek thing. They just went with it because it fit the story.

 

So, rather than go with the possible other readings Wilson offers, including a more scholarly one that is altogether more reasonable you decide to support the bastard version loved by extremist ********s the world over?

No.

It's easy for any bastard to grab a piece of religious text, twist its meaning to what they want and then use that as a basis for some Holy War bollocks. Doesn't mean the rest of us have to go along with it.

 

I have always labeled Star Wars as science fiction/fantasy.