Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

For sure. Sabine's been the perfect traditional Mando carry-over from day one.

 

Language representation: Wakanda Is a Fake Country, but the African Language in ‘Black Panther’ Is Real

 

I can’t stand the Legends Mandalorians. TCW was the best thing that happened to them.

 

I can't help but think that Georges Lucas, for all that he was apathetic toward the EU, agreed with you and designed the New Mandalorians accordingly. It seems to undermine too much of the EU lore about them to not be intentional.

That makes me realize : what were the Legends Mandalorians but Jedi with jetpacks and without the Force powers? Martial training, check. Various skills, check. Taking people in from all ways of life, check.

 

lol no there are some pretty huge differences between them

 

Oh yeah, the Jedi takes in orphans, Mandalorians take in the children of the people they've murdered!

 

I'm sure this conversation will go in a productive direction.

 

At least we've moved on from Star Trek.

 

You're a monster, infocache.

Wait... wrong site. Sorry.

--Adm. Nick

 

My understanding was that he just did not care and he had made that clear earlier: 'It's my sandbox, you can play in it and overall do what you want but don't expect me to not do what I want just because you have done something different in my sandbox.'

Diplomatic skill, no-check. Not working for money, no-check. Trying to prevent fighting, no-check. Not being described as evil, no-check. Etc.

I think you mean Nordic, the Aryans where a Indo-Iranian group. Also I think the idea was that they wanted to do a kind of allegory about the fall of the Weimar Republic, notice the Picasso like art and cubist architecture among Satine's people. among other things.

 

Not sure if you’re being pedantic or if you’re just actually unaware, but there is another, more common, definition of Aryan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race



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I see where you're coming from, though for me it had the sort of funny side effect of making them even more obvious Space Swedes.

Descendants of barbarian raider dickheads who are famed for cool helmets (albeit not historically accurate in Vikings' case) and glorified by hordes of fanboys, but are now a neutral and peaceful people. Some, both within and without, think they've gone too far in that direction, and problems ensue.

In any case, while I'm not really into the TV shows, I actually really like that they made at least one society significantly different in different time periods. What's the point of 25000 (or however long the new timeline is) years of pretend history if too much stays pretty much the same? I'm still of the mind that KOTOR has a lot to answer for w/ the cultural/technological/etc. prequelization of the TOTJ period.

 

It's Gamiel, he's being pedantic.

 

...so yeah, I'm perfectly satisfied with Jon Favreau getting a Star Wars series, but holy hell could they not have picked a worse day to announce it.

 

Yeah, I don't think Favreau would've had anywhere near the degree of negative reaction he's gotten if the announcement hadn't come today of all days, and so relatively soon on the heels of Weiss and Benioff's addition to the franchise. Viewed alone, bringing Favreau in seems like an overall good move, but taken as part of the current trend—Kennedy's seemingly inflexible vision of white men at the head of each and every Star Wars project—there's a distinct shadow cast over the whole thing that didn't need to be there and could easily have been avoided. And the incredibly tone-deaf nature of dropping all of this amidst a day dedicated women only serves to highlight the fact that so many talented female writers, directors, and producers are still being kept inexplicably on the outs.

 

Fantastically put. The only time I think they have really tried to make an effort to fix this issue is by firing Trevarrow, and even then they replaced him with another white dude. Regardless of if Abrams is the right pick or not, they have just dug themselves deeper and deeper into this hole, with little to show for attempts to actually get out

 

I think the firing of Trevarrow had nothing to do with diversity.

 

I agree, but it certainly put them in our good graces for a while. Kill two birds sort of situation

 

Hm, I didn't think so since I never perceived that as part of the reason they did it. If anything it just made me more convinced they had no control of the ship.

 

I mean I am 50/50 on if it was part of WHY they did it, but it's the closest I can think of in terms of them even remotely responding to the criticism, even if it was actually indirect and unintentionally. At the end of the day it does not matter though, as this news proves.

 

For real, I'm way more upset with KK's same old **** than anything really to do with Jon Favreau. How many times has she promised female creators and sidestepped POC creators? Then says we haven't gotten any because they're just not finding any "talented enough." All the while throwing movies at the certified mediocre D&D duo. Getting Favreau's like the least objectional thing she's done.

 

I thought D&D and J.J are. jewish not white?

 

Would you like fries with that bottomless can of worms for just a dollar more?

The short version is, Jewish people ARE white, and antisemitism is a distinct phenomenon from racism. The long version is ... longer. Much longer. And partly refutes what I just wrote.