Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

See I can relate, but I am now holding out for Poe and Jess Pava to be a thing. I think either way we are both not gonna be getting our ships to come true in 9.

 

I dropped Aphra cause A) Si Spurrier, and B) money, but reading the previews doesn’t make me at all interested in her current significant other. She seems obnoxious.

 

Tolvan is an alright character generally speaking, but yeah, Spurrier's arc has been a little much at times. It's like someone doing a Gillen impression but without the skill.

Although! I almost forgot, there is a gay male relationship in there as well--between RO background characters Caysin Bog and Tam Posla. I'm actually kind of interested in how others are responding to them as a couple, given how out there they are conceptually, Bog in particular.

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Not to mention that Bog just died, apparently.

 

Si Spurrier wrote the X-Men run where Fantomex had sex with an underage girl, which basically lead me to write him off entirely.

 

I had to look them up. I'm interested in reading more about them, but conceptually it is strange. Bog in particular just feels like he's strange for the sake of being strange.

 

Bog is weird but that's Rogue One's fault.

 

idk, I kinda like seeing what the "good" doctor's experiments were.

 

....hm.

 

I'm not sure how to read that.

 

Chuck Austen had a protege?

 

Not sure this is recent--it came out October 2016--but the Ahsoka novel has a lesbian coprotagonist, Kaeden Larte. Although not depicted in a relationship, she's explicitly interested in Ahsoka and there's implied (if buried) interest on Ahsoka's part.

 

This is how the internet described it:

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And to be clear, this is Hope Summers:

 

Yikes

 

Man. Last Shot sure is great for this thread.

 

Only 130 pages in and I can already tell this is the most woke SW book yet.

 

Star Woke

 

Btw, how do those female pilots in ROTJ with the dubbed over voices count, diversity wise? Negative points?

 

Good question. I guess negative would work, it's like having a white actor play or voice a supposedly poc character. In fact have those pilots been talked about in canon at all?

Edit: as far as I can tell Kott is canonically a woman, nice

 

How do we count Kallus then? Negative points as well?


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At least for my personal scoring, I don't factor anything in other than what's canonically shown. Kallus's actor is irrelevant--behind-the-scenes diversity is another big important thing to tackle but it's not what I've chosen to focus on. As for the pilots in RotJ they're not named in the credits so they don't count either way.

What's interesting is, if a minor character like that does have a name I'll typically refer to the actor to try and confirm their ethnicity--so if someone presents in the film as a woman then I imagine I'd count them as such (or dare I say it, gender nonconforming) regardless of their voice.

 

I’m not sure this is the best way to go about things. Greedo was played by a woman and is canonically male. The original Palpatine in ESB was a woman. One of the TIE pilots from the Battle of Yavin has been retconned to be Iden Versio but was almost certainly played by a man in the film.


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My thought process is, what conclusion would a person reasonably make from the movie on its own? Greedo and the Emperor are established as male characters regardless of how they look--and neither looks particularly female imo, even ESB Palpy, so I don't see any reason I wouldn't classify them as male, whereas the RotJ pilots aren't even named, let alone gendered. As for Iden, it's really awesome that they've established her as being there, but the idea here is representation, and if you have to read a novel released 40 years later to know one particular pilot is female then I'm not inclined to give the movie credit for that.

 

Maybe not the movie, but the canon.

 

I agree with this -- it defeats the purpose of what your original goal was otherwise. To be honest, splitting hairs over an ultra-background characters isn't worth wasting time over. There are bigger gender and racial crises to tackle.

(And to be even more honest, I don't care about minuscule diversity retcon crumbs like that when everyone ignores the fact that all the lead Imperial generals in those movies are white males)