Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

That's pretty much my thought on all action figures and collectibles. I don't understand why anyone would pay an enormous amount of money for something that will do nothing but stare at you.

But I can accept there are certain things I just don't get

 

And you guys call yourselves fans.

 

I still really need to play X-Wing and TIE Fighter. I loved Flight Simulator games as a kid, even if I had way more fun crashing.

Dunno how they'll run now, though. I'm afraid the oldest game I've played on my pc is Planescape: Torment.

 

I still break out XWA every couple years or so.

 

I've actually never played Balduer's Gate either, maybe I should jump on that...

 

Jello, yup. Took 'em long enough, too.

 

This thread sure flies. I've spent days trying to catch up with all the things I've missed, and I finally just had to resort to skimming some of it. The past page and a half of toy chat hasn't helped. Though I do miss the good old days when every LEGO fig was a primary-yellow smiley face, and kids could project whatever race, gender, or age they wanted onto them.

Anyway, a couple of links I ran across that I think are relevant to this thread:

Female Science Fiction and Fantasy Authors Still Encouraged to Use Male Pseudonyms
Why Talking About Character Gender Still Matters (Even Though It Shouldn’t)

 

I miss the good old days of legos when everything was not a theme set. We built ships that could but the theme sets to shame.

 

Oh, look, the topic...

Kyris just raised a really great point in the VII thread - say they do want to work with the EU as much as possible. Now imagine it takes place post-40 ABY or so, like most people are assuming.

Now imagine there's a scene of Luke Skywalker's Jedi Council.

There is NO. WAY. IN. HELL. They're going to stick nine or ten white humans on that thing. It just will not happen.

This is one of the things I've been getting at in this conversation all along--the second you actually look at the NJO, their WHMness becomes unbearable. So regardless of what the EU as a whole looks like after 2015, one thing I'm now absolutely certain of is that the days of this are coming to an end.

 

Wut

 

Jedi Masters who can probably be retconned species... Octa Ramis and Streen...

 

Just wait until we get that one actual homeless dude from the Bayformers movie to play him

 

That's a typical function of moveis vs lit.

What works in movies? Fancy aliens and weird looking people who sit around on the council but don't actually do anything.
What's works in lit? Relatable characters, often depicted as "white males" probably because that is what makes up most of the fanbase or authors think they are most relatable.

 

I've been playing LOTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) for the last year, and really liked the diversity they showed in that game, even if they were basically limited to Humans/Dwarves/Elfs/Ents/Hobbits and a few others.

I just started playing the free version of TOR, and one of the main things I was looking forward to was seeing tons of completely non-human characters... and all I've seen are a bunch of human characters. Also, all the statues of the ancient Jedi/Sith on Tython/Korriban are human, which isn't even historically right, and the holograms of all the Jedi founders recovered are human too.

And the few nonhuman characters I've seen so far are basically human, like Zabraks and Miraluka. There are a few Twileks and Togruta, but I still think of those characters as mostly human too. There might have also been one Cathar Jedi, and a couple pure-blood Sith, but still, not really non-human. I guess there's the Flesh Raiders, who are clearly nonhuman, but they're mostly vicious mindless monsters.

Does TOR get better with diversity? I think I saw a video which had the Gree featured, but I hope that's more than just an exception.
I want Dugs and Toydarians and Hutts and Gran and Killiks and Mon Calamari and Barabels and Aing-Tii and Fosh and Ithorians and Blood-Carvers and Noghri... etc...

 

nope, not possible... Octa is Kyps girlfriend... and I believe Seha is their secret lovechild.

Streen stays human please. No species retconning, rather have new Jedi on Council and others leave or die.

 

That having been said, TOR is actually better with human diversity than alien diversity.

 

The problem with TOR's diversity is that all species are, generally, palette swaps of humans

I want wookiees, dammit.

 

I like the Seha is Kyp and Octa's kid... Except the timing lines up for Seha to be born while Octa was with Miko Reglia I do believe...

 

Is the Empire generally less diverse than the Republic in TOR, or is it just the case of the Sith Academy? I started an Inquisitor yesterday and was surprised nearly all the quest givers were WHM, with even Red Sith pretty uncommon.

I understand why it might be that way in universe, but running from WHM 1 to talk to WHM 2 and then WHM 3 wore thin on me a bit that I'm thinking of trying a different class out for a bit instead.

 

The Sith aren't all that diverse, but the Empire is. Especially Alderaan.