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Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. Endor_boy

    Endor_boy Jedi Knight star 2

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    Recently finished Last Shot (audiobook). I really enjoyed it. Sana’s role was a real plus, I hope she continues to appear in the novels, and that we’ll get some Aphra appearances too. Aphra could carry a novel easily (even better if its Aphra/Sana starring).
    Having comic characters starring in novels too is really fulfilling the new canon promise. Sana was a real hoot too, fun, reckless, glamorous and flamboyant. The new comics have really introduced some great new characters.
    It makes me really wish Sana and Aphra were in the movies too.
    Unless I missed something though, they never directly referenced Sana being gay, which was a little disappointing.
    It was nice that Kaka being non binary was very normalized.
     
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  2. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    You know what would be cool for a Aphra novel? Do something similar to this and jump around between different explorations she has done. So like some stuff with Sana, some with Vader, some with Tam, and maybe stuff with Luke or Lor post rotj
     
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  3. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    The running joke about Han's crush on Sana made me think her orientation would be the final punchline--but yeah, it never went there. TBH I don't remember precisely what her past with Han was said to be in the comics; maybe she's bi?
     
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  4. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    From what I remember it was just that they posed as a married couple during a heist.
     
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  5. Endor_boy

    Endor_boy Jedi Knight star 2

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    AFAIK Sana has never been shown to have an interest in men. We have as much evidence than Sana is bi as Han or Luke are.
    I was also expecting Sana being gay to be the punch line to Han’s blind conviction that she was into him. I also thought that maybe Chewie knew (and that Chewie has flawless gaydar would be hysterical).
    Still, now that she’s made the crossover into novels I hope we see more of her.
    Last Shot had a really great set of supporting characters.
     
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  6. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  7. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    [​IMG]
     
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  8. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    holy **** I never even knew Sana was supposed to be gay. That makes the whole thing with Han in Last Shot so much funnier in hindsight
     
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  9. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    You must not have read all the comics.

     
  10. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 3

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    This is the look Han has on his face the last time he sees Luke in The Empire Strikes Back:
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    He never even looks at Leia with that much smolder, hence I would argue that we have more evidence that Han is bi than that Sana is.
     
  11. Endor_boy

    Endor_boy Jedi Knight star 2

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    This is the best thing I’ve seen all day.
    I’m still absorbing the (shameless queerbaiting) news about Lando.
     
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  12. Ghost

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  13. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Knight star 3

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    The original article on Huffington Post doesn't say anything about moments being cut, so I think that's something Fox News has made up or misinterpreted. Good to hear there are some lines that could be taken as suggestive, but the Kasdans saying "maybe, maybe not" and "we would have liked to show more representation but didn't" isn't all that great.
     
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  14. Endor_boy

    Endor_boy Jedi Knight star 2

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    I didn’t read anything about lines being cut.
     
  15. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    heh. So they get some credit for diversity to people who care but by keeping it on the DL they avoid the controversy it would cause by having it openly in the actual film

    Clever political play
     
  16. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    All I'm gonna say about this right now is those comments are being reported poorly.
     
  17. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    "Ok Lando, we're going to need you to start hooking up with a few more blokes ok?"

    . . . "This deal is getting worse all the time"

    seriously though this is a nothing story. Watch people on both sides of the spectrum get upset and fight about it.
     
  18. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Kasdan's comments sounds less progressive politics to me and more like Richard Pryor's widow's comments regarding Marlon Brando.
     
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  19. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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  20. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    "I didn't know you liked males, too, Lando."
    "Baby, you're a cephalopod."