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ILM To Break New Ground in New HULK Movie

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by Master Salty, Jan 22, 2003.

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  1. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    SuperHeroHype pointed us to a Variety article that talked about Hulk and the amazing work of ILM. Here's a clip and be sure to look for Mr. Green in a new commercial this weekend during the Superbowl!
    "The Hulk's" angry green meanie, who rampages through the streets of San Francisco, is expected to break new ground. The wizards at ILM have previously created believable dinosaurs, aliens and ancient monsters but a humanoid creature like the Hulk (expected to have a lot of screentime) has never been attempted. He is essentially a Goliath of a human who resembles actor Eric Bana and must express realistic emotions. He can't look too computer generated. If he does, the audience may be turned off. It's a big risk for Universal and an even bigger challenge for ILM.
    "It's a very complex challenge," Morris says. "It's hard to get the old Lou Ferigno image from the TV show out of your head when you think of the Hulk. We're used to seeing a bodybuilder in green paint. But the Hulk is 15 feet tall and glows green from gamma radiation. There's a lot of pressure to get him right. He has to work or the movie doesn't work. The audiences will be the judge."



    This is taken from the main site of TFN. I can't wait to see what new CGI effects ILM will create for this movie.


     
  2. SPACEMONKEY20

    SPACEMONKEY20 Jedi Master star 5

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    Dang........ that sounds amazing...



    I agree, if the Hulk looks dumb in CGI, then the movie will be a huge disapointment.


    There's a lot hanging on this.... not for the film itself, but other films to come.....


    That's the thing with ILM.... We are used to seeing the work they do in Star Wars films, where they only have to get the job done for the least amount of money..... Given the budget and time, ILM could really pull out all the stops and make the Hulk look freakin' amazing.......


    I guess we'll just wait and see...




    -Space
     
  3. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I never realized the HULK was that big. I'm one of those that has the image of Lou Ferigno as the HULK. I expect good things from ILM with this movie. It will be interesting to see how they composite Eric Bana's face on the CGI HULK. That seems to be a major hurdle along with making the HULK seem real.
     
  4. TIE1138

    TIE1138 Jedi Master star 4

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    LMAO, I can't seem to get that image of the body builder dipped in green paint image out of my head either. I'm really excited to see what ILM has to contribute to the movie. They've played an inspiring role in my life and I'm stoked to see anything they put out. I was also a Hulk fan as a kid.
     
  5. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I've always been a huge HULK fan as well. I really hope they do the comics and Bill Bixby justice by this movie.
     
  6. jp-30

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    So, is it gonna be Bruce Banner or David Banner?

    My money's on "Bruce".
     
  7. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    My money is on "Bruce Banner" too. They'll probably tie it into the series and comics somehow. They may mention David at some point in the movie.
     
  8. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    This information is from the official site for the movie.

    [link=http://www.thehulk.com/]The HULK Offical Site[/link]

    Eric Bana (Black Hawk Down) stars as scientist Bruce Banner, whose inner demons transform him in the aftermath of a catastrophic experiment. Academy Award® winner Jennifer Connelly (A Beautiful Mind) portrays Betty Ross, whose scientific genius unwittingly helps unleash The Hulk; Nick Nolte (The Thin Red Line) plays Banner's brilliant father, who passes on a tragic legacy to his son, and Sam Elliott (The Contender) portrays the commander of a top-secret military research center.
     
  9. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Eric Bana. Just can't picture it, but I'm willing to try. :)

    Should we accept the green eye from the teaser as any indication?
     
  10. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I imagine that's part of the design ILM came up with for the HULK.
     
  11. malducin

    malducin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's the thing with ILM.... We are used to seeing the work they do in Star Wars films, where they only have to get the job done for the least amount of money..... Given the budget and time, ILM could really pull out all the stops and make the Hulk look freakin' amazing

    Not quite. You can't even make that comparison since it's Lucas own money, it just goes around. About 50% of the budget for Ep. 1 went for VFX which comes around to 55 to 60 million. It's rare for any film to have such a high VFX budget, both in quantity or in percentage. For comparisson, the VFX budget for Pearl Harbor was something like 30%. As far as time, well also the prequels had plenty of time more than normal productions. Like 18 months each of postproduction work and that doesn't count even preproduction time ILM had for R&D like the digital camera tests and the like.

    I imagine that's part of the design ILM came up with for the HULK.

    Well there is much controversy about this. Originally Rick Baker was brought onboard when there was the possibility that some prosthetics might be used. Then it was said he only contributed to the design. There are rumors that the final design came from ILM. Also at least Kevin Yagher provided maquettes and scultures of the Hulk for scanning, but based on whose design is yet to be determined. If anyone has solid info I'd love to hear it.
     
  12. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I'm still looking around for additional information on ILM's contribution to this movie.
     
  13. HKChicago

    HKChicago Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I have no idea who came up with the design, but a new trailer has been found at universal's site and the Hulk looks great (has purple pants... who says comic book movies can't follow the character's true look!), but his full body motion looks absolutely fantastic. Smooth, realistic, good integration with the environment. The few facial expressions I saw were of anger, anger, and more anger. It'll be interesting to see how the character reads from facial expressions.

    It's a bad windows mov stream though, can't wait to see this one sunday night.
     
  14. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I refused to see spiderman but I'm really interested in seeing this movie. It's cool the effects looked solid in the trailer.
     
  15. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The trailer doesn't set my world alight, but it's at www.movie-list.com if you want it.
     
  16. DARTH_ABBADON

    DARTH_ABBADON Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I'm a bit underwhelmed. Which is too bad because if any company were to pull it off, it would have been ILM.
     
  17. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    Hopefully the movie will be very good despite the trailer.
     
  18. malducin

    malducin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well what many people don't realize is that sometimes times use work in progress shots. For example the original Twister teaser (where a tractor wheel smashes a windshield) was actually the test ILM did for Jan DeBont that convinced him to go ahead and give the job to ILM. The MIB trailer, where Jeebs head reforms, you could clearly see the "matte lines" but the final shot was fine. The Perfect Storm campaign, ILM rendered the big wave and vote specifically for the poster, trailer and ad campaign, the actual shot on the film was done from scratch. Heck the Pearl Harbor teaser barely showed anything, just the planes going to Hawaii.

    There is still at least 5 months work left. Shots in several SuperBowl trailers looked in progress including some shots of The Matrix sequels and Charlie's Angels 2.

    Besides TV and movie files are really crappy to tell quality, they might hide faults or they might accentuate them. Just watch any movie before the 90s in TV. Most of the time you can see the garbage mattes on FX shots, though on film they looked fine.
     
  19. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Hulk will be this years "Godzilla"
     
  20. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I hope it's not that bad.
     
  21. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    Here's an update from the main site of TF.N.

    The NYTimes talks to Universal Pictures' president of marketing about what we can expect from ILM's cgi HULK:
    Mr. Lee's Hulk will be a pure C.G.I. creation (for computer graphics imaging) rather than a blend of digital and photographic effects, as are most movie creatures of his kind. "The Hulk really performs in the film," Mr. Fogelson said. "The Hulk really has attitude and emotion. I can only tell you that Ang and everyone else at Industrial Light and Magic are spending 24 hours a day refining and perfecting everything. To simply reduce it only to "What is he going to look like?' is doing a disservice to the scale and scope and the aspirations of the film."


    The HULK should be fantastic to see.
     
  22. Cometgreen

    Cometgreen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sigh. Why do people forget Final Fantasy? That broke new ground.

    I just hope it isn't another Spiderman. God I hated that movie. IMO, the only good comic book movies are the first two Batmans and Xmen. Hopefully Xmen2 will be good. But Daredevil and the Hulk, and the inevitable Spiderman 2: Our Craptacular Acting and CGI Work Will Get Us Another 400 Million, will probably suck.

    Cometgreen
     
  23. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I didn't forget Final Fantasy at all. I really enjoyed that movie.
     
  24. Darth-Schwartz

    Darth-Schwartz Jedi Master star 4

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    the hulk super bowl trailer looked realy good.
     
  25. jamesdrax

    jamesdrax Jedi Master star 6

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    "Hulk will be this years "Godzilla"."

    Eric Bana will prevent that. ;)
     
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