What do y'all think of the work ILM did on Star Trek over the years? They did six of the ten films, and I personally think a lot of their very best work can be found in these films, and I feel that ILM were key to the success of Star Trek during the 1980's. Sure, while the effects ILM did for Trek, particularly II and III were much more workman-like and nowhere near as elegant and technologically accomplished as the effects from the first Trek film done by EEG, Apogee and RA&A, they nontheless began on a very good note with the spectacular effects done for the battle at the end of Star Trek II, inside the Nebula. Their pioneering use of CGI in the Genesis sequence is also noteworthy. Another high point certainly was the destruction of the Enterprise in Star Trek III, as well as all the designs ILM did in-house for that film: they really gave Star Trek a great new look, while at the same time tying it very firmly to tradition. They richly deserved their Oscar for Star Trek IV, the only time a Trek film ever won an Oscar for visual effects. The stuff the creature-shop did with those animatronic, free-swimming Humpback Whale miniatures is absolutely MIND-BLOWING. The by-then-standard spacecraft shots actually had a lot of polish in Star Trek IV, and the whole film has a look all its own. They also did some staggeringly good matte-paintings on that film. Star Trek VI was pretty ordinary on the effects front, but was nontheless a good solid effort. I found Generations and First Contact, however, to be among the best shows ILM ever did, especially First Contact, although Generations had much better looking planets. The sheer quality of their miniature photography, digital compositing and their CGI, really sets this film apart. I also really like it when the Borg Cube blew up; a green explosion was certainly a nice change, and as always, it's really great seeing real pyro: nothing beats packing a model full of explosives and letting rip.... Anyway, this is just to get the ball rolling. I'll drop in later if the discussion gets going. -JDR.