I'm into that B movie style.

It might be nice if, on the AOTC DVD, there was an option where you could remove the dialogue just watch the film with sound effects and John William's score. But then you would still have to deal with the cartoon aspects of the movie... hmmm...

 

For once I agree with you Tokyo. I'd love to watch AOTC with just the score and sound effects. Not because I don't like the dialog, but because I'd love to hear how th score interacts with the movie with out the dialog trampling it!

I'm a musician, I can't help it!

 

What the hell is a B-movie exactly? Kinda like what soft porn is to hard core porn?

Yes I have seen many films throughout my life, both old and new. However my knowledge of B-movies is obviously, well, non-existent.

A brief explanation and some examples would be greatly appreciated.

 

Mars Attack is a B-film.


Eight Legged Freaks is a B-film.



The Scream films are B-films (at least compared to The Exorcist)

Arachnophobia is a B-film.


...


And so forth.

 

A B-Movie, or B-Grade Movie used to refer to cheapo, slightly dodgy/cheesy sci-fi or horror movie. Think Attack of the 50 ft Women and that kind of thing. Nowadays you'll get movies like Mars Attacks and 8-Legged Freaks purposly mimicking the cheesyness, and often the lame special effects for the commedy element of it all. Some do it better than others. And then you have movies like Star Wars, which don't exactly do that, but they are still in many ways inspired by the storytelling style.

 

Well, Star Wars is a lot of different things, that's why it was so popular to begin with. If it had just been a homage to old sci-fi movies, it probably wouldn't have been such a big hit with regular moviegoers back in 77. But Lucas managed to mix cheesy sci-fi serial thrills with hip humour and ancient mythology. I think at least two of those elements are still present in the prequels.

 

Well, this is sad.

This thread is just pathetic excuse-making by fans in denial.

Nobody had to forgive the original films. I didn't hear anybody saying "Well, I love the B-movie style!" about the originals....why not?

Well, here's why. While all 5 films have contained some elements of b-movies, it's been taken to the highest degree on the last two, and to near-parody in Attack of the Clones. My friend, a casual Star Wars fan, walked out of the midnight showing telling me "It was weird....it was funny, but it was like it was parodying itself." He was referring to the Count Dooku scenes at the end of the film, and I couldn't agree more. When Count Dooku is flying on his speeder to the music of the Wicked Witch of the West, that is campy, and that is pathetic for such an "epic" film. The whole movie was an exercise in camp.

Another difference is that the originals were simply so well done that it would be difficult to complain about the b-movie influences.

In a bad/decent film, campy scenes are much easier to pick on.

Lucas apologists, feel free to fall in line and rip my post apart.

 

Besides, how can a movie that is called
"Attack of the Clones" not be a B-style movie?

 

I dunno, the same way a movie called "The Empire Strikes Back" did it.

 

Booya!

 

Very proud of yourselves, aren't you? Don't worry, I won't try and shatter your beliefs that Star Wars isn't a B movie. I have more important things to do . . . like wash my socks.

 

You better do that. I can smell them from here.

(It's been a long day, let me have some fun - )

 

lol

Such zingers...it's like an episode of I Love Lucy in here.

 

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AL and alfy

 

If you wish to express your opinions here, drop the antagonistic attitude. Terms like "fans in denial" and "Lucas apologists" won't exactly endear you to forum members or moderators.

 

Finally, I'm a blonde.

 

If you wish to express your opinions here, drop the antagonistic attitude.

Aren't you being antagonistic by basically flaunting your board seniority and telling me to watch myself?


Terms like "fans in denial" and "Lucas apologists" won't exactly endear you to forum members or moderators.

I call it like I see it. Neither of those terms are offensive.

 

Haha...another thread whose days are numbered.

 

Accusing people of being in denial for their opinions qualifies as an inflammatory remark because many do find it offensive, whether you see it or not. The moderators are watching this thread now, so let's try to avoid derailing it any further.

 

ESB is not a B movie? I seem to remember that being the introduction of a certain 3 foot green Jedi muppet that sounds alot like Grover. Don't go patting yourselves on the back on that one bashers.

 

BTW this is not an "excuse" for anything about the films. It was intended to be a discussion about a very real and obviously intended part of the films that has been there from the begining. These films have and always were at least partially inspired by b-movies and serials and that is what we are "trying" to discuss.

 

I like the style of the movies. Not too flashy or weird. Like you were actually watching things happen naturally in that world.

 

On behalf of George Lucas I apologize to those of you whom were so profoundly disappointed by AOTC that you come here in ritual every day to torment the happy fans as if this was your personal purgatory. Please, feel free to visit our confessional so that you may absolve your soul and say your penance to be a normal, happy, well adjusted, productive member of society again.

was that apologetic enough?

 

Wow; some refreshing intelligent posts on here; finally people see the light. Star Wars was and is a "B" movie with "A" movie money; by the way "B" movie does NOT mean bad or nessesarily even second rate; B movies were the short, cheap pictures that played before the feature presentation. (Flash Gordan, Tarzan, etc.) With Star Wars the irony is that the short picture has become the feature! Yipee! A concept that most people still got in 1977; not anymore.

By the way did anyone see hypocrisy in some of the reviews for "Blue Crush" I heard a review on NPR where the guy said the movie was very good even though the dialogue was cliche and the acting wooden!! Sound familiar??? The point is he and others acknowledged that a movie could still be good with weak dialogue! Go figure???

I heard another review of blue crush describing a similar notion; the beauty of the ocean and etc. and the fun and joy of seeing surfer gals display feminine power made up for the poor acting.

But if George Lucas does the same thing with Cristopher Lee delivering the lines set in space it's thumbs down!

 

That was Roger Ebert that raved about Blue Crush, wasn't it? He'll give a thumbs up to any movie that features hot babes showing off their cleavage (he raved about Tomb Raider, as well). I guess Natalie in skimpy clothing wasn't to his taste, which is why he gave AOTC a thumbs down