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JCC IMDb for Hollywood/Celebrity/Famous sexual predators

Discussion in 'Community' started by vin, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    so you're taking the position of ' guilty 'til proven innocent ' ?

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  2. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Public or personal opinion does not need to abide by the same rules as a common-law criminal court, nor should they.
     
  3. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, but IMHO a single accusation without further details doesn't really amount to a lot. It put Rush on my radar but I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt until further details come out or more accusations surface. I don't think it's useful to just blindly accept accusations.
     
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  4. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    That's not really how justice works though. You should consider that both sides of the story are possible until serious proof surfaces or an actual trial takes place. And a trial will most likely only end with the verdict of more/less likely of the accused's crimes having occurred.

    A way forward is to make sure law enforcement policy is taking accusations seriously, and barring the accusations going public, setting up a sting operation. It would probably have to take some serious planning as you can't just ask any cop to go undercover as a comedian or actress that would even find themselves in the presence of a Weinstein or Louis CK.
     
  5. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    I don’t think anyone has ever claimed their personal opinion is “justice.”

    How many millions of cops are we going to deploy undercover to catch casual workplace harassment at the fry line at McDonald’s and packing warehouses, and the slaughterhouse, and ball bearing factories and mini-mall furniture outlets and accounting firms all over the country? Is this seriously your plan?
     
  6. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    You do realize that police do sting operations, right?
     
  7. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    I do.

    Whereas you are apparently completely clueless about how commonal sexual harassment and assault are.
     
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  8. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    Very rational conclusion you've deduced.
     
  9. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    For literally any other type of crime, all sorts of evidence is acceptable including:

    • Eyewitness testimony
    • Written or electronic records
    • Wiretaps
    • Physical evidence
    • Sequence of events from which a malicious motive or intent can be deduced

    Yet for absolutely no reason, you have stipulated that the only valid way to establish sexual harassment is using a secret sting operation. Any reason for this Herculean and highly particular standard of evidence, which requires the victim to keep suffering rather than remove themselves from the situation? You know, since we're focusing on logic.
     
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  10. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    Read it again. I think it might lead to a better comprehension on your part as you've gone all over the place.

    What you are doing is actually a part of the problem.
     
  11. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    You prescribed sting operations as the "way forward" in sexual harassment cases.
     
  12. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    Read it again. I didn't think it would take this long to comprehend a single paragraph.
     
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  13. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    Why don't you use more words.
     
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  14. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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  15. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  16. FatBurt

    FatBurt Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nooooooooooooooooooo



    You utter, utter git
     
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  17. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace JCC Ravager star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Curses, foiled again!
     
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  18. Juliet316

    Juliet316 JCC Game Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    The story I clicked is even more horrible than I imagined.
     
  19. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrely Community Mod star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Never been happier to be Rickrolled.
     
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  20. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  21. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk Force Ghost star 6

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    Wow 386 million views on that rick astley video
     
  22. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    The Rickroll has done wonders for Astley's career.
     
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  23. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  24. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  25. Juliet316

    Juliet316 JCC Game Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Might have worked if @jp-30 hadn't already rickrolled almost everybody.
     
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